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Thread: Thoughts on the Sterling SUB Series Stingrays

  1. #16
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    Hi chris , ive got the 5 string sub , bought it last year . Very happy with the warm sound it puts out .
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    Today my defences crumbled, and I ordered my first SBMM: A walnut stain Sub 5.

    My excuse is that I need a bass that I can leave in a studio that is used by other people as well. I'm too lazy to carry basses back and forth, and too paranoid to leave my SR5s there overnight. (After my first SR5 got stolen from a rehearsal space nine years ago, I'm not leaving any instruments in that price range out of my sight for very long.)

    It's good to have an excuse ready when I confront myself with my sometimes wanton splurging.
    2002 SR5, Trans Red, RW fretboard
    2004 SR5 unlined FL, Vintage Sunburst, transparent PG, pao ferro fretboard
    2009 Bongo 4 HS Stealth, RW fretboard, Hipshot D-tuner
    2013? SUB Ray5 WS
    → Boss GT-10B → Trace Elliot GP-7 SM 150W

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    "It's all about the sauce"
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    SL4p FL [x2] - SL4HS FL - SL4HS FL [Moses neck]
    SR5HS alnico - SR5p FL ceramic [x2] - Bongo4Hp FL

    "Too many basses is never enuf"

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  4. #19
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    Went to my local music shop hoping to try out an Epi Thunderbird. There was a SUB in Black + Maple on the wall, thought I might as well give it a go. Neck is a bit thicker than I'm used to but playing around with the preamp was a lot of fun. It came home with me.
    Put my regular strings on, I use thin strings so it needed a little set up, got used to the neck and now it's my favourite bass. And just sounds awesome. And really light too.
    Never thought of owning any kind of Music Man but I'm so glad this was there. Just lovely.

  5. #20
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    Great review Chris C!
    I just bought the SUB Ray4 in black & maple. I am blown away with the tone, the quality, and the playability of this bass. Outstanding for a bass in this price range. I've played Fender basses for 50 years, and decided to try this bass as a cheaper way to get into the Ernie Ball Music Man sound. Amazing! I knew I liked it immediately, but had no idea I would like it this much. After getting used to the controls, I couldn't get over the tonal variations with just a slight turn of the knob. The neck is fast and comfortable. I am very impressed with this instrument. I don't know of another bass in the price range that has more to offer. Well done!

  6. #21
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    Love the bass, but just COULD NOT get used to that volume pot. Changed it out for a conventional pot and much better now.

  7. #22
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    Purchased the Ray4 in late 2012. Ordered one in black and tan, which looks awesome! First thing I noticed was how light it was. First gig I had with it was on one of the biggest club stages in St Louis (Pops) and sound check got a big thumbs up from sound man. It plays very well and sounds big. I am not a Stringray guy so, I am not sure if it has the Ray sound or not, but a nice modern rock sound for sure. I am much more accustomed to passive Fender P or J tones, which I actually prefer, but for the price, this bass offers a good alternative. I have to agree with other reviewers on the electronics. Low boost is thunderous and will overload the input of my amp if set really high. Treble is way too brash when boosted and even when fully cut, the overall tone is still bright. I favor a bright tone so all good. I have enjoyed it very much and glad to have it in my arsenal. I need to play it more often!
    Slave to the groove!

  8. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by NuttnButDaBlues View Post
    Love the bass, but just COULD NOT get used to that volume pot. Changed it out for a conventional pot and much better now.
    Just curious, what pot value did you use? Thanks.

  9. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.U.B. Zero View Post
    Just curious, what pot value did you use? Thanks.

    Look farther back in this post. There is a link to a modification that I came up with and it gives all the necessary changes step by step
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  10. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBMM View Post
    Look farther back in this post. There is a link to a modification that I came up with and it gives all the necessary changes step by step
    Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, the two links that I found in this thread are dead. :-/

  11. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.U.B. Zero View Post
    Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, the two links that I found in this thread are dead. :-/

    Here's the new link for that thread with the full modification:

    Sterling by Music Man SUB Ray4 and Ray5 | Page 17 | TalkBass.com
    Brian Martin
    Vice President
    Product Specialist
    Praxis Musical Instruments
    Home of Sterling By Music Man

    888-989-7266
    Brian@PraxisMusical.com

  12. #27
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    Can you build the new ones with this mod so that it isn't a problem any longer.
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  13. #28
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    It's not a problem, it's just the way that it is designed.
    The modification I came up with just re-routs the preamp signal through the VR to give more control over the output and lessen the harshness that some people don't care for.
    Brian Martin
    Vice President
    Product Specialist
    Praxis Musical Instruments
    Home of Sterling By Music Man

    888-989-7266
    Brian@PraxisMusical.com

  14. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBMM View Post
    Here's the new link for that thread with the full modification:

    Sterling by Music Man SUB Ray4 and Ray5 | Page 17 | TalkBass.com
    Great! Thanks. After reading through many of the posts I think I'll go forward with replacing the preamp and pickup as I had originally planned. Otherwise, a great bass. A bit heavy but I like it. The 16.25mm string spacing is an added plus IMO.

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    Surprisingly good, while at the same time not so suprising, given the name on it. But still, I was just shocked when I first played one ... the one that I took home shortly thereafter. I thought "how is this possible", and I still think that every time I play it. I truly don't know.

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