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    Your thoughts wanted on used bass's pickup mismatch

    I received a used Stingray. It turns out it has a Seymour Duncan pickup, the ceramic one in it, and that wasn't disclosed and not visible in the pictures. The seller is fine with me doing some investigation and figuring out something to proceed. The problem obviously is that I cannot buy the original MM pickup and that the SD goes for ~$45 on Ebay, the MM if traded at all for what $150?

    Questions:
    • Based on the second picture, is that preamp the MM preamp or is it the SD? It's fixed to the bottom, I don't want to lift it.
    • Assuming we want to do some value adjustment, how much do you think he should refund? I payed a bit more than what SR4s go at a minimum because I liked it, I don't think I was squeezing the buyer on the original price. But of course then the bass should be a-OK.


    There also is buzz that shouldn't be there and it isn't the obvious reason, the shield in the pickup wire is connected. So it isn't a 2-minute fix either.


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    Ouch! That's definitely not the MM preamp. I have some original MM Stingray pickups laying around if you can find an original preamp. It looks like all the guts are different, the pots don't look like MM pots either.

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    Yeah I noticed the small pots you usually find in Asian guitars. Since the buzz isn't from an obvious missing ground it is likely that this preamp has a problem.

    I think this deal is a bit south of expectations

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    Assuming the seller wants to compensate, how much do you think would be appropriate? Preamps are expensive even if you don't get original MM. This preamp thing is probably garbage between the buzz and the pots.

    Wood-wise I like this one. Decisions, decisions.

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    are there any markings on the preamp? usually on the PCB there would be information on who the manufacturer is. You might want to post the pictures over at talkbass or another forum as they most likely have people there who would recognize it on sight.
    2007 Stingray 5 HS Cherry Burst / Maple FB / 3 Band EQ / Ceramic Pickups
    2012 Stingray 5 H Pearl Blue / Rosewood FB / 3 Band EQ/ AlNiCo Pickup
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    Quote Originally Posted by uOpt View Post
    Assuming the seller wants to compensate, how much do you think would be appropriate? Preamps are expensive even if you don't get original MM. This preamp thing is probably garbage between the buzz and the pots.

    Wood-wise I like this one. Decisions, decisions.
    Good morning, neighbor. Well, since you love the wood you should keep it and replace the electronics. I don't know about preamp prices, so I searched a little and found that prices vary greatly. Boy, some of these internal preamps are pricey...maybe you could agree upon a price for an average priced one, then chip in some of your own loot to get one of the fancy ones? I found michael pope designs, but they are $300+.

    I'm thinking that fair compensation would be for him to cover replacement parts costs while you pay for the labor (if you can do it yourself, that's a bonus).

    Good luck...

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    That looks to be a Duncan preamp to match the Duncan pickup. Maybe it is buzzing from an incorrect hookup job?

    It's a good preamp, but I prefer East's take on MM preamps.
    Brett

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbonesullivan View Post
    are there any markings on the preamp? usually on the PCB there would be information on who the manufacturer is. You might want to post the pictures over at talkbass or another forum as they most likely have people there who would recognize it on sight.
    It is glued to the bottom so I can't easily inspect it fully.

    The thing that makes me concerned is the cheap pots.

    The buzz isn't caused by anything obvious, all the grounds seem OK.

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    Do you want a musicman or a modded musicman. If you want a musicman, ask for all of your money back and look for another one. If you wanted a modded one, pick the preamp and pickup of your choice and ask for a refund for that amount. Then return what is in there now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by five7 View Post
    Do you want a musicman or a modded musicman. If you want a musicman, ask for all of your money back and look for another one. If you wanted a modded one, pick the preamp and pickup of your choice and ask for a refund for that amount. Then return what is in there now.
    I would do that!
    1977 stingray II guitar--walnut------------maple fb
    1994 stingray 4H---------natural------------rosewood fb
    1998 sterling 4H----------trans red---------birdseye maple/rw
    2006 Jp6---------------------mystic dream--birdseye maple/rw
    2010 Classic sr4----------coral red---------birdseye maple
    2013 Luke III HSS--------olive gold--------rosewood neck
    2014 stingray 4 HH-----neptune blue---flamed maple
    2014 Luke III HSS--------bodhi blue-------birdseye maple/rw

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanderhermans View Post
    I would do that!
    Well those are my options that I came in with Just trying to make sure I am right about what I think this is and that I'm not unnecessarily hard on the seller. Having said that, I would swap the electric and pickup with my teal Stingray if I decide these ones fit the rosewood board instrument better.

    It's not that I hate anything about this bass (except the buzz which I still didn't manage to kill). But I don't want to be screwed on the resell value either.

    So, as a simple question, how much less would you pay for a stingray 4h that you like wood and finish wise but that doesn't have the original pickups and electronics? $50? $100? $150? The original set sells for $150 - when it's available.

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    150 then...
    1977 stingray II guitar--walnut------------maple fb
    1994 stingray 4H---------natural------------rosewood fb
    1998 sterling 4H----------trans red---------birdseye maple/rw
    2006 Jp6---------------------mystic dream--birdseye maple/rw
    2010 Classic sr4----------coral red---------birdseye maple
    2013 Luke III HSS--------olive gold--------rosewood neck
    2014 stingray 4 HH-----neptune blue---flamed maple
    2014 Luke III HSS--------bodhi blue-------birdseye maple/rw

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    Quote Originally Posted by uOpt View Post
    Well those are my options that I came in with Just trying to make sure I am right about what I think this is and that I'm not unnecessarily hard on the seller. Having said that, I would swap the electric and pickup with my teal Stingray if I decide these ones fit the rosewood board instrument better.

    It's not that I hate anything about this bass (except the buzz which I still didn't manage to kill). But I don't want to be screwed on the resell value either.

    So, as a simple question, how much less would you pay for a stingray 4h that you like wood and finish wise but that doesn't have the original pickups and electronics? $50? $100? $150? The original set sells for $150 - when it's available.
    original set for 150, hard to believe! where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by five7 View Post
    original set for 150, hard to believe! where?
    I'm asking you. Right now I don't see the MM set for sale anywhere. Last time it was $150.

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