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Thread: bongo 4 h vs stingray 4 h eq?

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    bongo 4 h vs stingray 4 h eq?

    is the eq the same on both basses? i know the bongo has an 18 volt pre and the stingray a 9 volt pre, but is the sound of the eq exactly the same? or is it a different sound? i want the sound of the stingray in the bongo bass....the bongo feels so much better, lighter the neck is more playable......IMHO.

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    I think you should ask this one on the bass side..Welcome to the forums, though!
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    hmm i dont think it's a good idea to buy a bongo to get stingray tone. the pickup placement, wood, eq, ... is different. so you will never get that sound out of a bongo, you might get something similar but I truly doubt it!

    you can always go for a stingray slo special if you like a slimmer neck.
    1977 stingray II guitar--walnut------------maple fb
    1994 stingray 4H---------natural------------rosewood fb
    1998 sterling 4H----------trans red---------birdseye maple/rw
    2006 Jp6---------------------mystic dream--birdseye maple/rw
    2010 Classic sr4----------coral red---------birdseye maple
    2013 Luke III HSS--------olive gold--------rosewood neck
    2014 stingray 4 HH-----neptune blue---flamed maple
    2014 Luke III HSS--------bodhi blue-------birdseye maple/rw

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanderhermans View Post
    hmm i dont think it's a good idea to buy a bongo to get stingray tone. the pickup placement, wood, eq, ... is different. so you will never get that sound out of a bongo, you might get something similar but I truly doubt it!

    you can always go for a stingray slo special if you like a slimmer neck.
    The Bongo single H has the pickup where it belongs. Otherwise it is very different of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uOpt View Post
    The Bongo single H has the pickup where it belongs. Otherwise it is very different of course.
    Oh. I always tought the bridge pickup was not in the same position as with a stingray... my bad then.
    1977 stingray II guitar--walnut------------maple fb
    1994 stingray 4H---------natural------------rosewood fb
    1998 sterling 4H----------trans red---------birdseye maple/rw
    2006 Jp6---------------------mystic dream--birdseye maple/rw
    2010 Classic sr4----------coral red---------birdseye maple
    2013 Luke III HSS--------olive gold--------rosewood neck
    2014 stingray 4 HH-----neptune blue---flamed maple
    2014 Luke III HSS--------bodhi blue-------birdseye maple/rw

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    the bongo h shares the same heritage as the stingray h. but they are very different basses..
    neodymium magnets in the bongo pickups, different preamp, different wood all adds up to a different sound.

    if you want a stingray sound there is nothing that will replace the original

    hopefully you can afford to have them both!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanderhermans View Post
    Oh. I always tought the bridge pickup was not in the same position as with a stingray... my bad then.
    The single H doesn't have a bridge pickup

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    Quote Originally Posted by uOpt View Post
    The single H doesn't have a bridge pickup
    Well then the placent is different no?
    1977 stingray II guitar--walnut------------maple fb
    1994 stingray 4H---------natural------------rosewood fb
    1998 sterling 4H----------trans red---------birdseye maple/rw
    2006 Jp6---------------------mystic dream--birdseye maple/rw
    2010 Classic sr4----------coral red---------birdseye maple
    2013 Luke III HSS--------olive gold--------rosewood neck
    2014 stingray 4 HH-----neptune blue---flamed maple
    2014 Luke III HSS--------bodhi blue-------birdseye maple/rw

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    i do have both the bongo 4HS and the stingray 4, i don't know how the bongo 4H sounds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanderhermans View Post
    Well then the placent is different no?
    No, the bridge humbucker of a HH or HS stringray, the single humbucker of a H stringray and the single humbucker of a H bongo are all where they belong in the same position.

    HH and HS Bongos have to move the bridge pickup away because the 24 fret nonsense neck shifts the neck pickup and MM wanted to keep some distance between the pickups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uOpt View Post
    No, the bridge humbucker of a HH or HS stringray, the single humbucker of a H stringray and the single humbucker of a H bongo are all where they belong in the same position.

    HH and HS Bongos have to move the bridge pickup away because the 24 fret nonsense neck shifts the neck pickup and MM wanted to keep some distance between the pickups.
    thx for the info!
    1977 stingray II guitar--walnut------------maple fb
    1994 stingray 4H---------natural------------rosewood fb
    1998 sterling 4H----------trans red---------birdseye maple/rw
    2006 Jp6---------------------mystic dream--birdseye maple/rw
    2010 Classic sr4----------coral red---------birdseye maple
    2013 Luke III HSS--------olive gold--------rosewood neck
    2014 stingray 4 HH-----neptune blue---flamed maple
    2014 Luke III HSS--------bodhi blue-------birdseye maple/rw

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    Quote Originally Posted by uOpt View Post
    No, the bridge humbucker of a HH or HS stringray, the single humbucker of a H stringray and the single humbucker of a H bongo are all where they belong in the same position.

    HH and HS Bongos have to move the bridge pickup away because the 24 fret nonsense neck shifts the neck pickup and MM wanted to keep some distance between the pickups.
    Actually, the only reason the bridge pickup is closer to the bridge is "because it was a different model and because they could." No other reason. There was no "have to." That's per BP.

    As for the original OP's question--they will not sound the same. The pickups are made with different magnets. The preamps are made with different EQ centers and Qs. The bodies are made of different wood.

    So, don't get a Bongo to get the sound of a Stingray. In a band setting, the differences will not be as obvious with drums and guitars and vocals, etc. But, it won't sound like a Stingray.
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    I actually think that the 24 fret design of the bongo has a higher impact than the basswood body.

    (including that it moves the pickups, in practice)

    Am I the only one who would like a Bongo like this?
    • 22 fret neck and the angle of the line running both horns shifted forward, leading to slightly larger body?
    • Unpainted or clear painted neck (visible wood), ideally make the neck mount the same as in the Stingray
    • Whatever the pickup config is, keep one humbucker in the Stingray position
    • Stop making the pickup mount different from the stingray so that people can freely experiment with neodymium, alnico rods and ceramic bars.

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    We need a 'Stickie' that plainly states, right in the thread title, that
    Boingos are Boingos and Rays are Rays, and that all threads about
    how to defy this hugely obvious law of the universe will be referred
    to the moddy's delete key.
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