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    Quote Originally Posted by JayDawg View Post
    If that's it, the headstock looks almost identical to an Ibanez Soundgear bass.


    St Vincent Bass!!!!-d1d1809baf2a9726c15939e3a19ffab2-jpghi.....I did it by myself, trying to copy an Ibanez iceman neck, which is my ideal neck..didnt notice the headstock is kind of sgr, took the idea of this pic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjbebop View Post
    I prefer that body style as a bass actually....
    yeah....looks awesome and its very comfortable as well...

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    My favorite aspect of the St. Vincent bass is Annie Clark's design asthetic. In a promo she did for guitar center she described the shape as "Gender Inclusive" and I couldnt agree more. It's a very approachable instrument and I appreciate the light weight (one of things I love about my Caprice too). If it's like the guitar it should have some cool coil selection options. :-)

    Link to the GC promo video: St. Vincent's Ernie Ball Music Man Signature Guitar with Guitar Center - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayDawg View Post
    So educate me on the advantages of having a short scale bass?
    They are more punky sounding, more subject to enharmonic
    distortions, and some peeps dig that. You might just as well
    ask why 34" is more prevalent than 35" for long scale basses.

    For a long time, I tuned all my basses to DGCF, which is really
    the same as short scale except it offers two low notes on each
    string that are absent from the actual 30" basses. IOW, if you
    capo a 34" DGCF bass at the 2nd fret, it's an EADG 31" bass.
    All the "short scale notes" are in the same place as on a short
    scale EADG bass ... there just happens to be 2 extra notes on
    each string, up near the nut [without that hypothetical capo].

    Acoarst the tension feels a bit different, not better or worse
    but merely personal preference for some players.

    Another reason for a 30" scale is the ABG. Some happen to be
    34" scale but those suffer from excessively long reach to the
    cash zone, and also from neck dive due to the very light body
    and lack of a top horn. Even with a solid body, if the body is of
    the "Les Paul" shape, the shorter neck helps alleviate the dive
    and long reach resulting from the strap pin at the neck heel.
    The St Vincent shape is equally problematic.

    OK. Thaz "Short Scale 101". There'll be a quiz next Tuesday :-)
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    nice to know the body is problematic I didnt think it was....but you have played it, right Golem ahahahahahahahahahahha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Poppa View Post
    nice to know the body is problematic I didnt think it was....
    but you have played it, right Golem
    ahahahahahahahahahahha
    No need to be so defensive. Any explanation of where a 30"
    scale may offer some advantages must, by definition, touch
    on the situation of body shapes lacking a top horn .... which
    describes the St Vincent shape. If I discover another species
    of bird with tiny, barely vestigal wings, I will definitely class
    it as "Flightless" .... without ever tossing it up into the air to
    validate that classification.

    Have I personally experienced plenty of examples of all that
    I referenced in my post ? You bet your BP I have, and I was
    relating well founded observations. IOW, I'll stand by every
    word I wrote. I answered a brother's question .... answered
    it well and thoroughly !
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    On short scales I prefer the shorter horn and the bridge very close to the end of the body. I think the StV. is a great design for a bass, I'm really looking forward.

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    I'm looking forward to seeing this bass.

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    actually you injected your opinion "The St Vincent shape is equally problematic." I was pointing out that it's hard to state as fact when we havent made one yet and followed it up with laughter. Lots of things to do if you are indeed correct and the first prototype is out of balance....I dont plan of offering it if it cannot be made to our standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Poppa View Post
    actually you injected your opinion "The St Vincent shape is equally problematic."
    I was pointing out that it's hard to state as fact when we havent made one yet
    and followed it up with laughter. Lots of things to do if you are indeed correct
    and the first prototype is out of balance....I dont plan of offering it if it cannot
    be made to our standards."
    Hi BP. I tend to use too many words, yet in an instance where I used fewer
    words, maybe I offended or upset you. If I had written a more wordy style,
    the phrase "The St Vincent shape is equally problematic." might've been
    expanded to "Pictures of the St. V. Bass appear to incorporate the hornless
    shape that typically will exhibit the balance problem when the bass has a
    full 34" scale ... and is not of headless design."


    But even my wordy self doesn't write like THAT. Lawyers write like that !

    If I had been only a teeny bit more cautious I coulda added one word:
    "The St Vincent shape APPEARS to be equally problematic." But I'm
    thinking that woulda still triggered the the same reply from you.

    I did critique the St. V. bass's SHAPE, not the bass itself which clearly I've
    never touched, nor hacked into your CAD system and built my own 1-off
    prototype ! IOW, clearly I was critiquing a picture of a bass not yet built,
    and applying common knowledge to the question of "Will it be short scale ?"



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    FWIW I'm more touchy than most players about balance, even on fretted
    basses, and playing almost entirely fretless makes it even worse. As I'm
    aware of that, I'd never push my personal judgement about a particular
    bass being "too neck heavy", cuz I'm admittedly more critical about that.

    I moved the strap buttons on my Boingo 5 cuz I'm so picky ... but it's not
    something I'd wanna post as a Stickie to address a widespread complaint
    cuz acoarst there IS NO widespread complaint :-) OTOH a Boingo 4 really
    does have better balance than the 5-string, even tho mostly no one cares !
    Last edited by Golem; 07-26-2017 at 06:06 PM.
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    Hey Golem,

    I think I understand where you're coming from, the STV is a very different, sort of art deco avant garde style of design, which can probably look like it has a host of ergonomic problems, however I have to say that the truth is that the design shape is actually quite comfortable, if not a little tough on the high access frets.

    Rest assured the STV bass will also be player friendly and balanced. I don't work in instrument design but the lack of bouts/horns and headstock weight probably aren't giant hurdles for balance.
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