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Thread: 25th Anniversary Redwood V BFR Redwood

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    25th Anniversary Redwood V BFR Redwood

    I have a choice between:

    This

    25th Anniversary Redwood V BFR Redwood-25th-redwwod-jpg

    And this

    25th Anniversary Redwood V BFR Redwood-bfr-redwood-jpg

    I won't have an opportunity to play them, so any info, pros, cons, differences and experiences would be welcome.
    I play a NT StingRay HH at the moment.
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    1. the 25th isnt redwood. it has a figured maple top (quilt or flame option if i remember correctly, i might be thinking of the 20th sr5 but i cant say for sure)

    2. if you want diversity the 25th will give you more options than buying what essentially is another sr4hh with different woods

    3. the redwood has a mahogany neck. keep that in mind if you are using it on stage. it will be a little less solid than a maple neck. i presume you have seen gibson guitars with the usual glue seem at the back of the headstock

    4. no matter which one of them you get you will have an awesome instrument.

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    Thanks for the info about the 25th not being redwood. I'm leaning towards it, partly because of the variety you mention, but also because I'll probably be able to trade a Bass for it. The BFR is cash only.

    EDIT: I got this the wrong way around.
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    I like the look of the redwood one better.
    It's used and no case queen. The barcode sticker is missing.
    Cool that someone played such a collectors item.

    Only the binding have to be glued back on.

    25th Anniversary Redwood V BFR Redwood-2e1a85737515-jpg

    (I could be wrong, just the picture I see).
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    Wood shrinks more than plastic, so it's not rare
    that a binding needs some attention. As to the
    strength of a 'hog neck, the Gibson example is
    worst case. EBMM necks have a some meat at
    the volute. Gibsons do not, and so are famously
    weak there. Gibsons have a tilt-back headstock
    which is part of the problem. Acoarst one might
    find that "MM vs Gibson" is kinda like comparing
    watercress to watermellons .... but, I wouldn't
    worry about gigging a 'hog necked EBMM :-)


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    Kinda weird that someone brought that in for
    a trade-in. Deducting for the damage, unless
    it's a reeeeal cold winter, there's no value in it.
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    Oh my God that second one is absolutely gorgeous. I would love it if EBMM used more woods/stains for their finishes on their basses.
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    Just curious....how did you filter it down to just these two basses that you're considering? What makes you interested in these 2?

    They're both limited editions and both nice for sure. Probably the Redwood model is more rare - not sure if that is a factor.
    Are the electronics different in that Redwood SR?

    From my experience, the sound of the Reflex will be quite a bit different than the SR - it will have a much more flexible, powerful EQ and pickup combination and is more "hi-fi" sounding.

    They're somewhat difficult to compare tone-wise as they're a fair bit different from each other.

    Based on appearance alone I'd go with the Redwood SR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    I like the look of the redwood one better.
    It's used and no case queen. The barcode sticker is missing.
    Cool that someone played such a collectors item.

    Only the binding have to be glued back on.

    25th Anniversary Redwood V BFR Redwood-2e1a85737515-jpg

    (I could be wrong, just the picture I see).
    Reply from shop: "I had a look at the bass and the binding is perfect, its not lifting. I think it is just the way the light is hitting the bass in the photo."

    They didn't include another photo. I'd've taken more photos of the exact spot and included them in the email. In a world almost entirely driven by image, it must surely have occurred to them to disprove the accusation and enhance the prospect of a sale. I hope it's simple incompetence. If it's skullduggery, I'm bound to find out sooner or later :-)
    But I won't be convinced until I see it in person, which may punt this one in to touch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stu42 View Post
    Just curious....how did you filter it down to just these two basses that you're considering? What makes you interested in these 2?

    They're both limited editions and both nice for sure. Probably the Redwood model is more rare - not sure if that is a factor.
    Are the electronics different in that Redwood SR?

    From my experience, the sound of the Reflex will be quite a bit different than the SR - it will have a much more flexible, powerful EQ and pickup combination and is more "hi-fi" sounding.

    They're somewhat difficult to compare tone-wise as they're a fair bit different from each other.

    Based on appearance alone I'd go with the Redwood SR.
    Good tips, thanks.
    I haven't really narrowed it down so much as decided I'd like a real looker as my back up bass.
    Because I live, as far as testing basses is concerned, somewhere just outside of Whoop Whoop I have to buy things unplayed. I fancied a Ric4003 but was very strongly advised to play one first, virtually impossible for me. However, I'm very happy with my StingRay, so I figured I'd stick closer to home for my show-pony bass.
    Last edited by Ox Boris; 03-30-2017 at 06:41 PM.

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    Personally, I like the look of the 25th. But everyone has different taste. Also as mentioned previously, it will have more tonal options that are different from your current stingray.

    You haven't mentioned price. Are they priced similarly or is there a big difference?

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    They're both about two grand Aussie.
    One allows a trade with my Sandberg (and not a particularly good price offered for it) and is about $AU970 changeover (the BFR). The other is flatout cash and I'd have to sell mine first.

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    Never get a good price on a trade in. Can still try to sell on your own first and see how it goes. But the longer you wait the more chance someone else buys the bass first.

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    Just bought the BFR.

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    25th Anniversary Redwood V BFR Redwood-likebutton-jpg
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    Good choice! Let us know how you like it.

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