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    Compensated Nut

    Just a quick question regarding the compensated nut.
    In short what size string gauge are they cut for ?
    I know that from factory they are shipped with a 100-45 gauge set.
    I currently use a 105-50 set with no problems.

    What is the maximum gauge possible to use before the files need to come out ? (Not that I plan on messing with it just curious to know as never tried anything heavier than stated)
    My second Stingray with a standard nut handles the BEAD 130-65 set

    StingRay 4HH. SapphireBlack.2006
    StingRay 4H. Buttercreme. 2005
    StingRay 4H. ”SunBlue”. 2005
    Bongo 4H. Sapphire Black. 2005
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    Quote Originally Posted by danny-79 View Post
    Just a quick question regarding the compensated nut.
    In short what size string gauge are they cut for ?
    I know that from factory they are shipped with a 100-45 gauge set.
    I currently use a 105-50 set with no problems.

    What is the maximum gauge possible to use before the files need to come out ? (Not that I plan on messing with it just curious to know as never tried anything heavier than stated)
    My second Stingray with a standard nut handles the BEAD 130-65 set
    Looking for the same answer, but in the mean time I've put a 110 E string on mine for drop d and it seems to be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 96brigadier View Post
    Looking for the same answer, but in the mean time I've put a 110 E string on mine for drop d and it seems to be fine.
    Thanks for reply. That’s the conclusion I’m coming to. It’s currently got a 110-55 gauge set on it for D standard so I’m guessing not much more than that. Just interested to hear others experiences

    StingRay 4HH. SapphireBlack.2006
    StingRay 4H. Buttercreme. 2005
    StingRay 4H. ”SunBlue”. 2005
    Bongo 4H. Sapphire Black. 2005
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    Thought I’d dig this up rather than start anew (and couldn’t find what I was looking for in the faq)
    So the question is... when was the compensated nut first introduced and is a standard nut even an opinion on anything EBMM anymore?
    I’ve got two StingRays with very close birthdays in 2005 one is standard one is compensated. (Guessing that’s a clue to the change over area)

    StingRay 4HH. SapphireBlack.2006
    StingRay 4H. Buttercreme. 2005
    StingRay 4H. ”SunBlue”. 2005
    Bongo 4H. Sapphire Black. 2005
    GENZ-BENZ & ORANGE amps...

    https://www.facebook.com/DanSmithBassist/

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    Quote Originally Posted by danny-79 View Post
    Thought I’d dig this up rather than start anew (and couldn’t find what I was looking for in the faq)
    So the question is... when was the compensated nut first introduced and is a standard nut even an opinion on anything EBMM anymore?
    I’ve got two StingRays with very close birthdays in 2005 one is standard one is compensated. (Guessing that’s a clue to the change over area)
    The compensated nut made its first appearance on the Bongo Bass in 2003ish.
    It arrived on other instruments with the 2005 Limited Edition Buttercream package.
    The compensated nut is found on all of the guitars (without locking nuts) and the fretted basses.

    The StingRay Classic basses still come with a non-compensated nut
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteDuBaldo View Post
    The compensated nut made its first appearance on the Bongo Bass in 2003ish.
    It arrived on other instruments with the 2005 Limited Edition Buttercream package.
    The compensated nut is found on all of the guitars (without locking nuts) and the fretted basses.

    The StingRay Classic basses still come with a non-compensated nut
    Thank you ! That clears it up for me. It did have me guessing why both were 2005.
    Excellent, cheers !

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteDuBaldo View Post
    The compensated nut is found on all of the guitars (without locking nuts) and the fretted basses.
    I've got several fretless that came with it, as well. Folks might argue it's not strictly needed on a fretless, but i figured they did it to standardize their builds.
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    04 Bongo 5 HHp Sapphire
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    17 Bongo 6 HS fl Starry Night, roasted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Murphy View Post
    I've got several fretless that came with it, as well. Folks might argue it's not strictly needed on a fretless, but i figured they did it to standardize their builds.
    Hey Michael.. Any pics. Never seen it before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Murphy View Post
    I've got several fretless that came with it, as well. Folks might argue it's not strictly needed on a fretless, but i figured they did it to standardize their builds.
    I’m pretty sure thinking about it this has been brought up before around the forum (compensated nuts on a FL)
    Intonation still needs to be right on one so don’t see why they wouldn’t have them

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    StingRay 4H. Buttercreme. 2005
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Trussbroken View Post

    Hey Michael.. Any pics. Never seen it before.
    Well OK, here's one of mine:

    Compensated Nut-sr4-hp-fl-0142-wm-jpgCompensated Nut-sr4-hp-fl-0146-wm-jpgCompensated Nut-sr4-hp-fl-0148-wm-jpg

    IIRC it's about 5 yr old. In case you
    choose to look it up, it came to me
    [used] with a white PG. This is the
    youngest of my FLs. All [or most?]
    of the others have an ordinary nut.

    I play nearly all FL and I can assure
    you the compensated nut is really
    pointless. Gotta believe it's just to
    standardize production. Any subtle
    correction it provides is of far less
    influence on pitch than tiny, nearly
    invisible, little "rocking" shifts of
    finger pressure on the string.

    FL intonation does NOT need to be
    "right on". Most notes sound better
    when "well tempered". The notes
    on fretted necks are not all "right
    on" either, despite fancy nuts and
    careful set-ups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golem View Post
    Well OK, here's one of mine:

    Compensated Nut-sr4-hp-fl-0142-wm-jpgCompensated Nut-sr4-hp-fl-0146-wm-jpgCompensated Nut-sr4-hp-fl-0148-wm-jpg

    IIRC it's about 5 yr old. In case you
    choose to look it up, it came to me
    [used] with a white PG. This is the
    youngest of my FLs. All [or most?]
    of the others have an ordinary nut.

    I play nearly all FL and I can assure
    you the compensated nut is really
    pointless. Gotta believe it's just to
    standardize production. Any subtle
    correction it provides is of far less
    influence on pitch than tiny, nearly
    invisible, little "rocking" shifts of
    finger pressure on the string.

    FL intonation does NOT need to be
    "right on". Most notes sound better
    when "well tempered". The notes
    on fretted necks are not all "right
    on" either, despite fancy nuts and
    careful set-ups.
    Thanks Golem. Never seen it before!

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    Golem, what’s going on with the tuner on the D string ?

    StingRay 4HH. SapphireBlack.2006
    StingRay 4H. Buttercreme. 2005
    StingRay 4H. ”SunBlue”. 2005
    Bongo 4H. Sapphire Black. 2005
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    Here's one of mine (the one i could get to the easiest... but i have at least a couple more).
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Compensated Nut-b5f-d_resized-jpg   Compensated Nut-bf5-a_resized-jpg   Compensated Nut-b5f-c_resized-jpg  
    93 SR 5 H fl trans teal
    90 SR 5 H fretted* trans red (orig. lined fl)
    07 SR 5 HH Dargie I
    07 SR 5 Hp fl black/whi
    08 SR 4 HH BFR Redwood
    09 SR 5 H Dargie II
    09 25th Anniversary 5 HSS
    09 Reflex 5 Rosewood
    10 Reflex 5 Lamborghini orange burst
    04 Bongo 5 HHp Sapphire
    06 Bongo 5 Hp Egyptian smoke
    14 Bongo 5 HSp fl Cardinal red sparkle
    17 Bongo 6 HS fl Starry Night, roasted
    12 Sterling 5 HS PDN honeyburst
    14 Sterling 5 HH Pacific blue-burst
    70s EB Earthwood bass
    72 EB Earthwood guitar

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    Ok, here's one more:
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Compensated Nut-b6f-a_med-jpg   Compensated Nut-b6f-b_med-jpg   Compensated Nut-b6f-c_med-jpg   Compensated Nut-b6f-d_med-jpg  
    93 SR 5 H fl trans teal
    90 SR 5 H fretted* trans red (orig. lined fl)
    07 SR 5 HH Dargie I
    07 SR 5 Hp fl black/whi
    08 SR 4 HH BFR Redwood
    09 SR 5 H Dargie II
    09 25th Anniversary 5 HSS
    09 Reflex 5 Rosewood
    10 Reflex 5 Lamborghini orange burst
    04 Bongo 5 HHp Sapphire
    06 Bongo 5 Hp Egyptian smoke
    14 Bongo 5 HSp fl Cardinal red sparkle
    17 Bongo 6 HS fl Starry Night, roasted
    12 Sterling 5 HS PDN honeyburst
    14 Sterling 5 HH Pacific blue-burst
    70s EB Earthwood bass
    72 EB Earthwood guitar

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    Ok so it’s looking like the compensated nut is coming as standard on newer models ?

    (Michele Murphy, nice looking Bongo’s. The six string FL. ........ scary looking finger board)

    StingRay 4HH. SapphireBlack.2006
    StingRay 4H. Buttercreme. 2005
    StingRay 4H. ”SunBlue”. 2005
    Bongo 4H. Sapphire Black. 2005
    GENZ-BENZ & ORANGE amps...

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