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    Stingray Special 5 output

    So I picked up a SRS5 a while back. Love the neck and like that it's lighter but haven't been convinced. Gigged it a couple of times (rock covers) and it just doesn't seem to cut through like my other Stingrays.

    Yesterday, I bought a multimeter to check the output before I roll over and take it to my tech. Never done it before but it looks to me like I'm only getting 1.0 ohm when I check the output from the jack and that seems low compared to what I've read.

    Any thoughts before I take it over to Frank and give him my hard-earned $? I'd really like to love this one like I love the rest.

    Thanks in advance boys and girls....
    SR Special 5 "Classic Natural" born 5/30/2018 (For Sale)
    SR H "Redwood" born 8/6/2008
    SR5 HS "Dargie Delight" born 2/28/2007
    SR5 Classic "Vintage White" born 5/17/2010
    SUB5 "Graphite" born 4/1/2005
    SR5 H LF "Black" born 4/1/2003
    SR H "Orange Firemist" born 1/28/2009
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    I don't know about the multimeter reading, but since it's new, has it been thoroughly setup/dialed in? The pickup height and saddle height, if off by a bit, can lower the output by a considerable amount. The pickup height in particular seems to be neglected in several bass setup videos I've seen, but can make a huge difference. Not sure if this helps, but wanted to throw in my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njhammer View Post
    So I picked up a SRS5 a while back. Love the neck and like that it's lighter but haven't been convinced. Gigged it a couple of times (rock covers) and it just doesn't seem to cut through like my other Stingrays.

    Yesterday, I bought a multimeter to check the output before I roll over and take it to my tech. Never done it before but it looks to me like I'm only getting 1.0 ohm when I check the output from the jack and that seems low compared to what I've read.

    Any thoughts before I take it over to Frank and give him my hard-earned $? I'd really like to love this one like I love the rest.

    Thanks in advance boys and girls....
    Hi there,
    If your checking the Ohm reading without it plugged in, you're basically getting the reading from the capacitors on the board, which are about 1ohm. In order to get a reading you'll have to plug the bass in, as the input jack acts as a switch.
    From there you can take a reading at the battery terminals to see if you're getting 18 volts and at the output jack. In order to get an accurate ohm reading on the pickup, you would have to unsolder the pickup from the board and take a reading. If you need assistance feel free to shoot me an email at customerexperience@ernieball.com and I'll help you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samoht View Post
    I don't know about the multimeter reading, but since it's new, has it been thoroughly setup/dialed in? The pickup height and saddle height, if off by a bit, can lower the output by a considerable amount. The pickup height in particular seems to be neglected in several bass setup videos I've seen, but can make a huge difference. Not sure if this helps, but wanted to throw in my 2 cents.
    Thanks Samoht - I picked it up used and have thoroughly set up pickup height, saddles, intonation, etc. Still getting the problem.
    SR Special 5 "Classic Natural" born 5/30/2018 (For Sale)
    SR H "Redwood" born 8/6/2008
    SR5 HS "Dargie Delight" born 2/28/2007
    SR5 Classic "Vintage White" born 5/17/2010
    SUB5 "Graphite" born 4/1/2005
    SR5 H LF "Black" born 4/1/2003
    SR H "Orange Firemist" born 1/28/2009
    SUB1 H "Graphite" born 1/27/2005
    GK Fusion 550 & Neo 212 II
    GK MB150E & MBX
    GK MB112 II & 112MBP

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    Is it the low output problem compared to your other Stingrays, or is it the voicing problem? Specials are known as a more tame version of the older Stingrays, not as aggressive tonally. Might just not be what you want in a rock setting? You just might prefer the older, more aggressive tone.

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    How does the output compare to your SR5 Dargie? I believe, based on the production date of 2/28/07, that it would have ceramic pickups. And is it pure output that's missing, or just a missing frequency range that you're used to? Pertybass on youtube has an awesome comparison between his 1995 Stingray and his new Stingray5 Special:
    Music Man Bass Comparison (Special HH 2018 Vs. Stingray 1995) - YouTube
    I do hear a little less top end, but I wouldn't think it would make a drastic difference, and should be able to be compensated for with the onboard preamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouth View Post
    Is it the low output problem compared to your other Stingrays, or is it the voicing problem? Specials are known as a more tame version of the older Stingrays, not as aggressive tonally. Might just not be what you want in a rock setting? You just might prefer the older, more aggressive tone.
    Might be the voicing but I need to make sure it's not the output first. Worst case, you're right and I might just have to swap it out for another older SR!
    SR Special 5 "Classic Natural" born 5/30/2018 (For Sale)
    SR H "Redwood" born 8/6/2008
    SR5 HS "Dargie Delight" born 2/28/2007
    SR5 Classic "Vintage White" born 5/17/2010
    SUB5 "Graphite" born 4/1/2005
    SR5 H LF "Black" born 4/1/2003
    SR H "Orange Firemist" born 1/28/2009
    SUB1 H "Graphite" born 1/27/2005
    GK Fusion 550 & Neo 212 II
    GK MB150E & MBX
    GK MB112 II & 112MBP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samoht View Post
    How does the output compare to your SR5 Dargie? I believe, based on the production date of 2/28/07, that it would have ceramic pickups. And is it pure output that's missing, or just a missing frequency range that you're used to? Pertybass on youtube has an awesome comparison between his 1995 Stingray and his new Stingray5 Special:
    Music Man Bass Comparison (Special HH 2018 Vs. Stingray 1995) - YouTube
    I do hear a little less top end, but I wouldn't think it would make a drastic difference, and should be able to be compensated for with the onboard preamp.
    I have adjusted the preamp in both studio and live settings and haven't been happy with the results. Going to determine if the issue is with the output first.
    Last edited by njhammer; 08-23-2019 at 09:08 AM.
    SR Special 5 "Classic Natural" born 5/30/2018 (For Sale)
    SR H "Redwood" born 8/6/2008
    SR5 HS "Dargie Delight" born 2/28/2007
    SR5 Classic "Vintage White" born 5/17/2010
    SUB5 "Graphite" born 4/1/2005
    SR5 H LF "Black" born 4/1/2003
    SR H "Orange Firemist" born 1/28/2009
    SUB1 H "Graphite" born 1/27/2005
    GK Fusion 550 & Neo 212 II
    GK MB150E & MBX
    GK MB112 II & 112MBP

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    Hmm, I would think with the 18V power supply, it should be able to get louder than the other Stingrays you have.

    Though, voicing does count a lot. My SR5 Ceramic "sounds" louder than my Alnico SR5.
    2007 Stingray 5 HS Cherry Burst / Maple FB / 3 Band EQ / Ceramic Pickups
    2012 Stingray 5 H Pearl Blue / Rosewood FB / 3 Band EQ/ AlNiCo Pickup
    2012 Steve Morse Morse Blueburst / Rosewood FB
    2012 Luke III SSH Vintage Sunburst / Rosewood Neck

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    Well, good news... the bass if perfect and I'm the problem. Just not used to the new voicing, so I'm trying a few things like Cobalt strings and eq/compression for live work.

    Work in progress.
    SR Special 5 "Classic Natural" born 5/30/2018 (For Sale)
    SR H "Redwood" born 8/6/2008
    SR5 HS "Dargie Delight" born 2/28/2007
    SR5 Classic "Vintage White" born 5/17/2010
    SUB5 "Graphite" born 4/1/2005
    SR5 H LF "Black" born 4/1/2003
    SR H "Orange Firemist" born 1/28/2009
    SUB1 H "Graphite" born 1/27/2005
    GK Fusion 550 & Neo 212 II
    GK MB150E & MBX
    GK MB112 II & 112MBP

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