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    DarkBall ?

    Excited for this...whatever it is.


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    I just bought a bass with the Darkglass Tone Capsule preamp, and it's pretty cool. Interested to see what they've come up with.

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    I'm just guessing, but...

    A Tone Capsule replacing the current preamp would definitely be an improvement. The bass control operates at a higher knee frequency range: 70 Hz. (That is, if it's shelving. If it were peaking rather than shelving, now that would be really cool. That's one of Tech 21's secrets to making things sound beefy without sounding muddy. Eden did the same thing in their WTDI.) 70 is still low enough to remain in subwoofer region (so you're not overworking the PA's mid boxes with a higher bass-boost frequency like 100 and above), but it's not down in the driver-shredding mud, either, like it seems things are now. So, bullseye. High-mid control is 2800, which is a lot more reasonable than the crazy-high range the current MM treble control runs in. No more ice-pick zing.

    But, like I said, just guessing...

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    TalkBass has gone insane over this. Fun to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbassguitar View Post
    I'm just guessing, but...

    A Tone Capsule replacing the current preamp would definitely be an improvement. The bass control operates at a higher knee frequency range: 70 Hz. (That is, if it's shelving. If it were peaking rather than shelving, now that would be really cool. That's one of Tech 21's secrets to making things sound beefy without sounding muddy. Eden did the same thing in their WTDI.) 70 is still low enough to remain in subwoofer region (so you're not overworking the PA's mid boxes with a higher bass-boost frequency like 100 and above), but it's not down in the driver-shredding mud, either, like it seems things are now. So, bullseye. High-mid control is 2800, which is a lot more reasonable than the crazy-high range the current MM treble control runs in. No more ice-pick zing.

    But, like I said, just guessing...
    I could be wrong, but I donít see EBMM replacing the preamp in their basses with a Tone Capsule. I have experience with the Tone Capsule. Good preamp, but IMO would not fit a Stingray Special, Bongo or Sterling as well as the stock preamps. Iím guessing maybe an onboard overdrive circuit ? Itís been done by a few manufacturers. Again, I know nothing and could be completely wrong. I havenít seen the discussion on TB yet, but Iím sure itís already several pages long.
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    I could be wrong, too. Honestly, I was just dreaming out loud.

    Maybe there'll be a prize for whoever gets it right. A GC $25 gift card and a congratulatory pat on the back maybe? It would be totally worth it.

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    Honestly I've never really had any complaints, ever, about the preamps in EBMM basses. I'm not really sure why the company that really popularized active electronics in basses would want someone else's hardware in their basses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbassguitar View Post
    I could be wrong, too. Honestly, I was just dreaming out loud.

    Maybe there'll be a prize for whoever gets it right. A GC $25 gift card and a congratulatory pat on the back maybe? It would be totally worth it.
    We could both be right. Weíll find out on June 22nd. If it is the Tone Capsule, Iím hoping itís a custom version. I have it in one of my non-EBMM basses and often wish it had a treble control instead of low mid and high mid. I have been using the B7KU and VMT pedals with EBMM basses for the last few years. If either of those circuits were onboard, I think Iíd have to have one.
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    I’m confused. Is this an official Collaboration between EBMM and Darkglass?

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    I would hope they didn't use the Tone Capsule. I have a number of preamps and the EB 3 band and the Tone Capsule are the worst ever IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danny-79 View Post
    Iím confused. Is this an official Collaboration between EBMM and Darkglass?
    Appears to be, but maybe someone thatís actually in the know will chime in on this thread.
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    Well, there's supposed to be some type of announcement tomorrow I would assume.
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    Last edited by Randracula; 06-22-2021 at 01:32 AM.
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    2009 Big Al 4SSS Vintage Sunburst/Rosewood
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    2018 Stingray Special 4HH Aqua Sparkle/Ebony



    Noise Chapter EP
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    Wow. Congratulations to The Company on some seriously fresh thinking.

    Still interested in the bass & treble hinge & knee points. And by any chance did DG include an always-enabled HPF in the circuit? It would mean one less pedal.

    Personally I have no use for heavy distortion, but it looks like mix and gain can be varied, so I guess some very slight thickening of a basically clean tone would be possible? That's something I could definitely go for.

    I guess more tech bits will reveal over the next few months as the independent demos go online. But so far, me like very much!

    Thanks Randracula for the info.

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    Well that's definitely cool. Not really something that I would use, but I know plenty of people who would.
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    2012 Stingray 5 H Pearl Blue / Rosewood FB / AlNiCo Pickup
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    2021 Stingray RS Pacific Blue Sparkle / Maple FB

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