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  1. #16
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    Had a good call with Billy over at CS: I can send the guitar back (won't take that long from WA to CA), and they cover 1 x way shipping + the work itself. I cover sending it to CA.

    It's a shame that neither MM nor Pete caught the issue, but it happens and there's no hard feeling; what's truly disappointing is that I have to shell out cash on my own for a issue completely unrelated to me. But I like the guitar and it was a good deal so I will give it a pass.

    As soon as my mail room confirms they can send this out, I'll Fedex it.
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    Flying to NY tonight where I'll get mine! Hope I won't be as disapointed!
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    I've returned 2 of my MM guitars for warranty repair in the past. It seemed a bit frustrating at first but was well worth it!
    Part of me wants to expect every single MM to be absolutely perfect out of the box, but that's just unrealistic. Their quality control is still way above the norm for most manufacturers.
    They do their best to be perfect all the time, and they will make anything that's not right.
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    Got mine today. It is a FABULOUS instrument. Set up is perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Jason View Post
    Got mine today. It is a FABULOUS instrument. Set up is perfect.
    No you didn't... Until we see pics that is! Fais un NGD!

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    Ngd: Al hh pdn-received_10155017199578058-jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pott View Post
    3rd fret depressed, and then open string. It says so before the pictures on the measurements:
    * AL PDN, 3rd fret depressed: 2mm
    * AL PDN, open: 2.5mm
    * AL HH, 3rd fret depressed: 1mm
    * AL HH, open: 1.5mm
    * Valentine PDN, 3rd fret depressed: 1mm
    * Valentine PDN, open: 1.5mm (very consistent with the AL HH)

    Neck relief and other setup components are fine. If I capo her on the first fret she plays ok, this is all part of the standard evaluation I always do on guitars.

    Sorry if I sound arrogant; but I've gone through this guitar in every detail imaginable and I know what's wrong with it; everything else is perfect. Sounds great, got a gorgeous ebony board, lightweight, and the stunning is stunning.
    Maybe I'm missing something, but where does it say WHERE you are taking the measurements? I get it ....frets depressed and open. Where is your depth gauge?

    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Jason View Post
    Ngd: Al hh pdn-received_10155017199578058-jpg
    Looks almost as nice as mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeVt View Post
    Maybe I'm missing something, but where does it say WHERE you are taking he measurements? I get it ....frets depressed and open. Where is your depth gauge?

    Mike
    Ah got it. My bad! First fret

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    Ok I think that's why some were confused. Measuring string height at the 12th fret is more common, and once a string is fretted the only contributors are neck relief and saddle height - so your nut comments weren't making sense. Now they do. Thanks.

    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeVt View Post
    Ok I think that's why some were confused. Measuring string height at the 12th fret is more common, and once a string is fretted the only contributors are neck relief and saddle height - so your nut comments weren't making sense. Now they do.
    Exactly. Seeing measurements of 1.5 to 2.5 mm had me assuming a measurement at the 12th fret.

    Any measurements at the 1st fret would should be from the bottom of the string to the top of the fret (*not* from the fretboard) and those numbers are typically 0.25 - 0.75 mm (0.010" - 0.030"), best measured with feeler gauges or something like the stew mac nut slotting gauge.
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    I'm so stupid; completely missed that! Guess I assumed it was obvious... only to myself!
    I did measure from bottom of string to top of fret.

    Fretboard isn't involved in any of the measurements for guitar setup anyway. When I do my own setups I eyeball it (the only measuring tools I use are radius gauge for making nuts and setting up bridges).
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    Got it back today! Plays and sounds just brilliant. Loving it.

    Not been able to A/B it properly against my non-PDN AL... so that's TBD. I think one of the two will have to go, given how many guitars I have around these days...

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