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    Of course I share my experiences and my knowledge.
    People may say that the paint comes off quickly. It depends on the sanding paper or the sponge. Or God forbid, some can use a machine for the entire process.
    First of all you have to mask the fretboard and the headstock. Tha masking tape has to cover the side of the frets too on the side of the fretboard. It is very important otherwise you can cause problem of your frets.
    I chose 400 grit sanding sponge. (I wanted to buy rougher, but the store ran out of the 360grit sponge) First I started to sand the non-visible places. You know, I wasn't truly shure the outcome. Then I saw the result and I started to sand the visible parts. It was really long and tiring process. But it worth because the neck has become smooooooth.
    This video is a great help for the preparation and the process:
    This is Why You Suck at Guitar: Your Neck Finish Sucks (oil and wax finish tutorial) - YouTube
    I warmly advise you to watch it if you want to get rid of the sticky gloss finish of your guitar neck.
    If you have more questions, don't hesitate my friend.
    2/22/05 EBMM Sub1 X12770 oil/wax neck, cinnamon body, HSS w/5 way

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    The oil/wax finish is better than anything else that exists. I did this with my Sub 1 some years ago (a full write up was done here right before the wheel was invented). This is such a solid, good guitar. I still have mine (have sold almost all of my other guitars). One of my sons is playing it these days.
    7/29/04 EBMM Sub1 X11376 oil/wax neck, gloss black body, faux binding, HSS w/5 way and silent circuit
    keep in mind that you are talking about four pieces of wood two pots one switch a trem along with springs two pickups and some wire.....BP

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    Hello Guys,
    Here I am again with some news about my guitar. The project goes well.
    I made a new pickguard (from white perloid material). Then I managed to buy two Area 58s so they are at the neck and the middle position. Unfortunately their colors are cream so far because I couldn't find proper white pick-up covers. (Don't you have two unused, spare covers?) And for the bridge: a PAF Pro is coming from Germany. It'll arrive within a week. It is the last larger missing item. Then comes the soldering.
    I can't wait to play with.
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    2/22/05 EBMM Sub1 X12770 oil/wax neck, cinnamon body, HSS w/5 way

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    Quote Originally Posted by fbecir View Post
    Nice job

    I like the cream pickups on the white pearloid !
    +1

    I second that!
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    Very cool project!

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    nice one
    reminds me of my own SUB1-project! Still like it very much
    Keep us updated
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    Thanks guys, I see you like it.
    Do you know the material of the nut of the SUB1s? Is it bone or some kind of plastic? I wasn't satisfied with the tuning after the usage of the whammy bar. It might be the result of the poor quality nut. What do you think?
    2/22/05 EBMM Sub1 X12770 oil/wax neck, cinnamon body, HSS w/5 way

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    Did you try a little lubrication?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrKev View Post
    Did you try a little lubrication?
    Here we go again ...
    Talking about our lubrication problems with other grown men on Internet

    No problem with the nut of my SUB. But I did some work on it (I play with 10-52 strings, I had to widen a bit the slots) and I am not a big trem user (I do not use it "Van Halen" style but more in the style of guys like Hank Marvin).

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    Well I haven't tried anything so far. I thought I replace the old nut to Graph Tech TUSQ nut. And I think the machine heads should be replaced to Shaller M6. With all these modifications I expect better tuning stability.
    2/22/05 EBMM Sub1 X12770 oil/wax neck, cinnamon body, HSS w/5 way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikseven View Post
    Well I haven't tried anything so far. I thought I replace the old nut to Graph Tech TUSQ nut. And I think the machine heads should be replaced to Shaller M6. With all these modifications I expect better tuning stability.
    The stock machine heads are good enough I believe. If you have problems with the tuning stability, it's certainly the nut and the way it is cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fbecir View Post
    The stock machine heads are good enough I believe. If you have problems with the tuning stability, it's certainly the nut and the way it is cut.
    Do you think I should widen the cut first? I don't have any tools for this process. Any ideas on what I could use?
    2/22/05 EBMM Sub1 X12770 oil/wax neck, cinnamon body, HSS w/5 way

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    If you don't have the tools, take it to someone who does. Even with a well-cut nut slot, and locking tuners, lube helps.

    Grab a HB or 2B pencil. Pull the string out of the slot and rub the pencil along the slot building up a little black dust in the slot. The graphite in the lead is a good dry lubricant. Put the string back and retune. Play for a while. Report back to us.

    Just yesterday, one of my students was having tuning problems with his Epiphone Les Paul. This fixed it for him in 30 seconds.

    Personally I use white lithium grease as my lube of choice. Chapstick or vaseline work great too. Apply with a needle or edge of a piece of paper.

    Fender Custom Shop Master Builder Tips | Lubing the Saddle Nut & String Tree | Fender - YouTube
    Last edited by DrKev; 05-25-2017 at 12:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrKev View Post
    Grab a HB or 2B pencil. Pull the string out of the slot and rub the pencil along the slot building up a little black dust in the slot. The graphite in the lead is a good dry lubricant. Put the string back and retune. Play for a while. Report back to us.
    I heard the graphite trick earlier. I will definately try it when the guitar will be assembled. I hope it'll solve this issue with the tuning. Thanks for the advice.
    2/22/05 EBMM Sub1 X12770 oil/wax neck, cinnamon body, HSS w/5 way

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