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    Is this a fake?

    Hello fellow musicians,

    someone is offering me to sell his Music Man guitar but it does not have a Ernie Ball Logo on the Headstock, only a "Music Man" logo. Do you think it's a fake? He only wants 350 Dollars for it. Either he doesn't know anything about Music Mans or he tries to sell me a fake.

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    It looks kind of shakey, get the serial number and post it in the Serial Number thread to check if it's real or not. That headstock logo does not look right at all. The body looks right, but the bridge again doesn't look quite right.

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    Is it just me or does the headstock look too long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapperJ View Post
    Is it just me or does the headstock look too long?
    + 1 on the nasty headstock and weird bridge , I'd rather stay away from it .
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    Neck plate have 6 screws? Post a photo... serial number should be stamped on it too! Could be a very old Silo.

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    The grain pattern on the body is wonky. The seams are running on a angle. Not something I've seen before on a real EBMM.
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    I'm with Flash on this one, the bridge and the color make me think it might be an early silhouette. But I've never seen a logo like that. Photos of the back of the headstock and the neck joint are required, and a photo of the serial number. Then get in touch with customer service and have them check it (we have a sticky thread for that purpose incidentally).
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    According to the expert (Ernie Ball Music Man - From the Vault Guitars: EVH, Albert Lee, Spinal Tap, Steve Morse Prototypes - YouTube), the first Silouette was presented at NAMM in '85; at that time it didn't have that name,. this was given in '86 but it did have the truss rod wheel which is missing in the pictures of this questionable guitar. It also had an "Ernie Ball" logo not "Music Man" and it did not have the string bar on the head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick C View Post
    this was given in '86 but it did have the truss rod wheel which is missing in the pictures of this questionable guitar. It also had an "Ernie Ball" logo not "Music Man" and it did not have the string bar on the head.
    Oh, I missed the missing truss rod wheel. Good catch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrKev View Post
    Oh, I missed the missing truss rod wheel. Good catch.
    Agreed I missed it too.

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    the outline of the pickguard, especially the area where the controls are, looks odd
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    Here's a 1990 hardtail for comparison...

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    Quote Originally Posted by banjoplayer View Post
    the outline of the pickguard, especially thee arey where the controls are, looks odd
    Yep. Pickguard screw positions are off too.
    Last edited by DrKev; 12-20-2017 at 06:22 PM.
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    That is a fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    That is a fake.
    I thought so. Everything about this instrument looks wrong. Headstock is wrong, there's a retainer bar with no need for one, weird bridge, pickup/control spacing is way off, inlays are too large.

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