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    BP and the crew are absolutely stellar. I’ve been attending MAMM for several years now and to see BP interact with his atlrtist is stellar.
    I’m really close with Dean Wells and personally know the separation was extremely difficult for each party. I know a lot of that has to do with the way BP treats you like a son, daughter... you’re family.
    To watch him interact with Hunter during the Q&A was stellar. It was like watching two lifelong friends chat and jam. It was great
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    We know a troll when we see one - don't sweat it, boss!

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    Its not the troll...if it he wasnt dripping with comtempt and venom it was a good topic. Some players will have a career with one company and some will be with 6 or 7....whatever works for them...kind of like marriages
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    Its certainly an interesting topic - it's a side of the business i'm very ill informed on, but i'd like to know more. I teach on Music Industry topics as part of the programme i teach at University

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    It's no surprise to me that the "big shots" (Mr Lee, Lukather, Morse, Petrucci,...) have stayed fore decades. I would...

    I have a question by the way : when I finally get my signature guitar, how will we proceed as my dream guitar is already a signature model?

    Will it become a Jason & Lee model?
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    possibly...hahah
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    In a way I hope EBMM doesn't grow much bigger and remains one of those top quality "almost insider" companies. Those in the know appreciate what they get. The whole endorsement thing might also be unnecessary, especially in the more premium segment. Do I really buy a guitar because XY & Z plays one? Nope. I bought my JP15 because it fit my needs and wants and is an outstanding instrument. I bought it not because John Petrucci had it designed and puts his name on it but despite (!) that fact. And I've been a fan since the early days.
    I'm sure EBMM has done their research on how big the market segment is that is drawn in because of endorsements. But other companies for many years had strict policies against endorsements and I think that's a good approach that also draws attention. You want our top notch product? Then pay for it.

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    But endorsements work! I like to think I'm not easily influenced, but I'm sure I am.

    I came to MM via the Steve Morse guitar, which I loved the shape of because I'd seen him play it. Not that it was his guitar, but I became comfortable with it and grew to love the styling. (And then handed over my wallet ...)

    But even if I didn't buy his sig guitar, I'd know that if MM was good enough for him (or Petrucci, Luke, Lee, etc.), their other guitars were certainly good enough for me.

    What matters more to me is that EBMM artists actually play their sig guitars. Not just the ones specifically tweaked for them, but the off-the-shelf models. I've seen Steve Morse and Albert Lee pick guitars off the wall and just kill it. Not something that people really expect of signature models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterd79 View Post
    BP and the crew are absolutely stellar. I’ve been attending MAMM for several years now and to see BP interact with his atlrtist is stellar.
    I’m really close with Dean Wells and personally know the separation was extremely difficult for each party. I know a lot of that has to do with the way BP treats you like a son, daughter... you’re family.
    To watch him interact with Hunter during the Q&A was stellar. It was like watching two lifelong friends chat and jam. It was great
    I was sad to see Dean go, too. I will be forever grateful for EBMM taking him on, as I had never heard of him or Teramaze (and, as a result, Messhiak) before until he posted here when he got his endorsement several years back. To me, he's one of the top under-recognized, unknown, brilliant musicians out there and I do everything I can to spread his name/music. Very, very few artists have had that effect on me.

    Anyway, I didn't see the original thread, so I don't know what else you guys are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7enderbender View Post
    In a way I hope EBMM doesn't grow much bigger and remains one of those top quality "almost insider" companies. Those in the know appreciate what they get. The whole endorsement thing might also be unnecessary, especially in the more premium segment. Do I really buy a guitar because XY & Z plays one? Nope. I bought my JP15 because it fit my needs and wants and is an outstanding instrument.
    But how do you know that it's the instrument that fits your needs and wants if you don't know about it, if you never have a chance to play it? EBMMs aren't like Fender and Gibson, where you can walk into a shop in just about any town in the country, pick one up and play it. I have to drive 2-plus hours to the nearest EBMM dealer, and if I'm lucky, there may be one or two in stock these days. Usually, I'm not lucky. So how does the guy/girl who doesn't live near a well-stocked dealer find out about them? Because they see John Petrucci playing one, or Morse, or Lukather, or Valentine, or St. Vincent, and they become curious and interested in the brand. That's the necessity of endorsement. Otherwise, a lot of those folks are going to end up with the brand they can buy in their local store and never experience an EBMM.

    I want EBMM to do everything they can to succeed. I don't necessarily need to see them in my local store like Fenders (though that would be nice for me and bad for my bank account), but I want to always be able to get one, and I want to see some of those projects that are in the pipeline and see what kind of innovations BP and Co. can come up with.

    I get the feeling of wanting be part of a small, "in the know" club. I'm a metalhead, and we're pretty much all like that. The problem is that if there aren't enough members, sometimes the club goes away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevRock View Post
    To me, he's one of the top under-recognized, unknown, brilliant musicians out there
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    I think the endorsement thing definitely works... even beyond fans of the player.
    I was watching the Voice in the summer of 2016 with my family. The cast was performing live and Adam was playing a guitar I didn't recognize. Got a good look a the headstock and saw the word Axis. Looked into it, found out about EBMM and James Valentine and the Valentine. Saw it, heard it, loved it and bought it. Still love it. May never had seen it or looked into any EBMM without the Valentine endorsement. Turns out he's a great guy and guitarist... but never knew of him prior.

    That was a very fortunate discovery... to this day have never come across a Valentine in a store... and I'm in a fairly metropolitan area.

    Thanks BP... amazing guitar and company. Love that its a father and sons and that you're all involved and passionate.
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    Re endorsers and endorsees I became aware of st Vincent because of her guitar. And I really like her music now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Poppa View Post
    some will be with 6 or 7....whatever works for them...kind of like marriages
    Sterling,

    With you all the way - I have 4 ex-wives and a baby momma - so I'm on my way to 6 or 7!

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    Man. I feel like 1 is enough for me. I’ve ordered friends to cut my fingers off if I think about wearing a ring again

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