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    Tell me about BFRs...

    As some of you may have read in other threads, Iím new here and looking for my second EBMM.

    I thought Ball Family Reserve models were the sort of ďpinnacleĒ for want of a better expression. However, Iíve read elsewhere (FB comments) words to the effect that whilst some BFRs are really special, others are more ďrun of the millĒ. I think it was mentioned all JP13s were BFRs.

    Anyway, Iím in the market for a Cutlass, and Iíve seen one 2018 BFR model, brand new, for sale for several hundred pounds less than a non-BFR. Confusing to a newcomer. If Iím going to splash out on a new EBMM, I am tempted to go all out and try to get a BFR, and/or a nice roasted maple neck and fretboard, but I am now in need of more guidance on this BFR thing...what does it ďbuy youĒ?

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    Do it. The BFRs do have a little something extra. The first cutlass BFRs were magic. One had a full rosewood neck. What the one you are looking at?
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    They are limited in numbers, often have neck binding or different wood combinations or limited edition colours. The two I want to add to my collection one day are both first run BFR cutlass. Malibu Gold and natural with rosewood neck. I bought the st Vincent in that run
    Ernie Ball Music Man Cutlass BFR Natural Ash w/ all-Rosewood Neck #25 of 47 - YouTube
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    BFR's can be and mean a lot of different things. Definetly most limited runs are BFR's

    If you can find a Malibu gold limited run from a couple years ago grab it, sweet Cutlass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweat View Post
    If you can find a Malibu gold limited run from a couple years ago grab it, sweet Cutlass!
    There are two of those on Reverb right now. If it weren't for the neck binding, which I don't like, I would have bought one of them myself!

    I have two BFRs - they are no better quality-wise, tone-wise or playability-wise than any of my other EBMMs, but that's only because the standard factory guitars are already so good!
    Luke 2 Graphite Pearl MH
    Luke 2 Luke Blue
    Luke 2 BFR True Gold Rosewood
    Luke 3 BFR Boysenberry Quilt
    Luke 3 PDN Bodhi Blue Rosewood
    JP6 White Pearl MH
    JP6 PDN Starry Night MH
    Cutlass PDN Starry Night MH
    Cutlass Ghostwood
    Cutlass Black

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    This one is in Spain, although itís at the other end of the country from me:

    Music ManCutlass Malibu Gold | Mike’s | Reverb

    I am a bit nervous because it appears to be an individual with little history who is selling it.

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    I would buy that in a heartbeat

    There is the other one from that run on eBay

    ERNIE BALL MUSIC MAN BFR CUTLASS NATURAL SOLID ROSEWOOD NECK LTD EDITION 12/47 | eBay
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    I love the older BFRs just for the inlay at the 12th fret! I am a sad man i know :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie M View Post
    I love the older BFRs just for the inlay at the 12th fret! I am a sad man i know :-)
    Not sad... you're not alone! My JPXI is the only one I still have with the 12th fret inlay. I've considered selling it many times to purchase new BFRs (most recently the nebula majesty) but I just cant bring myself to do it everytime I see that BFR inlay. I love that design.
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    If it’s a BFR that catches your eye and meets your budget constraints, go for it. They generally offer something unique finish-wise, sometimes different electronics. You shouldn’t assume they’ll sound different/better to your ear than a non-BFR, but many are spectacular to look at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Etudica View Post
    Not sad... you're not alone! My JPXI is the only one I still have with the 12th fret inlay. I've considered selling it many times to purchase new BFRs (most recently the nebula majesty) but I just cant bring myself to do it everytime I see that BFR inlay. I love that design.
    Same here


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie M View Post
    I love the older BFRs just for the inlay at the 12th fret! I am a sad man i know :-)
    Not to take away from this thread, at first I didn't like it, but once I had gotten one with it, I really liked it and miss seeing them. Too bad they aren't an option.

    As for a BFR, like everyone says if it works for you, get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapperJ View Post
    I would buy that in a heartbeat
    @trapperJ I did! Well, not quite a heartbeat. The guy I bought it from (an individual on Reverb with not a lot of “history”) was excellent to deal with. One thing he did was send me a 5 minute video showing me the guitar in huge detail and commenting as he went. That was a confidence booster for me, more so than just photos. Could not have gone more smoothly.

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    That’s awesome mate - great score. I’m a little envious I must say.
    Funnily enough I sold one of my previous Cutlass to finance the Hunter Hayes and I did the same thing for the guy interested in buying it. Did a demo video going through all the switching and showing him what amp I was using and what settings so he knew what was occurring in context. He was well pleased and we did the sale. Personal touch goes a long way and shows yer not just a guy flipping guitars
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    Yeah, it made me think if I ever sell a guitar again then video is the way to go. Thanks - it’s a cracking guitar. The only downside? It is a present for my upcoming “special” birthday from my wife and kids and Mrs S has now instructed me to put it in its case, and not open it again until I am officially presented with it on my actual birthday...in FIVE WEEKS TIME! However, I know, I know I am a very lucky man :-)

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