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    Floating bridge setup question

    My MM guitar bridges are all set to float - accomplished by loosening the claw springs and tuning etc to get to the desired float - where as the bridge leans forward towards the pickups and is raised at the back of the bridge.

    I took one my guitars into one of the best local tech's for a setup etc who asked me the normal questions and if I wanted bridge decked or floating.

    When I got it back the bridge is indeed floating (I can raise and lower pitch) however it is parallel to the front of the guitar. In other words - he raised the bridge plate height at the posts so it is flat from front to back and is floating off the body.

    Have any of you ever done that or heard of that? It works fine, but i am honestly not sure I like it - the trem feels stiffer and I have to remove the bar to close the case lid without detuning.

    Thank you for your time! Keep well friends.

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    A lot of Ibanez bridges do that. Logically, it's no different to any floating bridge that has been routed under the bridge, e.g. the Petrucci models! Fender used to recommend it that way but no longer do and their spec is now the same as the Luke spec - angled with 1/8 inch gap at the back. Do however you like it.

    By the way, in the absence of a dedicated Music Man setup guide, the Fender Strat setup guide is an *excellent* resource...

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    Thank you DrKev !!! Back in the pre-MM days when I played strats I kept them decked. I had never seen that before - but I also trust the tech. I think I like the leaning approach better and may change it at some point, but it does work equally well.

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    Did that end up raising the action, or did the tech lower the saddles to compensate?

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    Hmmmm. EBMM guitars with tremolos usually have fixed bridge posts, screwed directly into the wood. They don't have posts in bushings. I'm not sure that the bridge posts were really designed to be adjusted that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LesPaul View Post
    Did that end up raising the action, or did the tech lower the saddles to compensate?

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    It did, but he adjusted saddles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbonesullivan View Post
    Hmmmm. EBMM guitars with tremolos usually have fixed bridge posts, screwed directly into the wood. They don't have posts in bushings. I'm not sure that the bridge posts were really designed to be adjusted that way.
    I will need to look at that - I thought they were adjustable? The guitar in questions is a 2001 Silo Spec

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    They are adjustable. Pretty sure they are in bushings. I think. I've taken them apart enough times, I should remember better.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrKev View Post
    Correction: looking at my Silo and Cutlass just now, there are NO bushings.
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    Well, I know that the Luke III trem doesn't have adjustable posts. Why would they tilt the bridge upward if they could just raise the bridge plate a little to get some "up" bend room?
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    The MusicMan FAQ has some guidance to floating the trem on the Luke that might be applicable:

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    I saw that, and both the vintage and Luke III setup pretty much start out with the bridge pivot screws being as low as possible while still allowing the tremolo a full range of motion. To get floating, they want the bridge plate to angle upwards.
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    Correction: looking at my Silo and Cutlass just now, there are NO bushings.

    The posts are absolutely adjustable, if you so wish.

    Quote Originally Posted by tbonesullivan View Post
    bridge pivot screws being as low as possible while still allowing the tremolo a full range of motion
    Correct.
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    [QUOTE=DrKev;1062724]Correction: looking at my Silo and Cutlass just now, there are NO bushings.

    The posts are absolutely adjustable, if you so wish.

    I don't see bushings on my Luke either. Just out of curiosity, what do the post thread into

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    The posts thread directly into the wood. The posts are long and the thread is large and deep. It's very strong and stable.
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    Donít know if this is a universal thing, but on my mates strat, If the bridge was floated parallel, when he played a chord and did a bend whilst it was ringing out, the ringing strings went out of tune. When it was floating with an angle instead, this did not happen. I donít know why. Is it just a fluke?
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