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    Eclipse Sparkle

    This awesome color (looks a lot like Starry Night with black hardware) is a Sweetwater exclusive and I would love to get a Luke III HSS, but they only have the HH version on the website. I called them but they said they could only offer the HH configuration.

    It doesn't seem like much of a stretch to just change the pickup configuration. Is there any manufacturing reason why they can't make an HSS one? Is there any point emailing EBMM direct to see if they can handle it?

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    Luke 2 Luke Blue
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    JP6 White Pearl MH
    JP6 PDN Starry Night MH
    Stingray Short Scale Bass Starry Night
    Cutlass PDN Starry Night MH
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    They only have that configuration because that's what Sweetwater wanted. This has nothing to do with EBMM. Most likely the SSH isn't as big of a seller for SW, so they chose not to have any in their exclusive limited run.
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    2021 Stingray RS Pacific Blue Sparkle / Maple FB

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    Yes, what tbone said. Music Man don't make a whole load of stuff that dealers subsequently order. They make to order, meaning that Sweetwater ordered HH guitars only and that's all that was manufactured in that color. You can ask Music Man to make HSS for you in that color, but you'll have to meet the minimum order size at least 50 of them. Or maybe it's 100, I don't remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrKev View Post
    Yes, what tbone said. Music Man don't make a whole load of stuff that dealers subsequently order. They make to order, meaning that Sweetwater ordered HH guitars only and that's all that was manufactured in that color. You can ask Music Man to make HSS for you in that color, but you'll have to meet the minimum order size at least 50 of them. Or maybe it's 100, I don't remember.
    I would think you'd have to be a dealer as well right?

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    Silhouette Special HSS in Gold Sparkle (Hardtail) [7/12/2002] [Made for Matchbox 20]
    Albert Lee 3 MM90's in White Sparkle (Hardtail) [8/14/2001] [NOS Just pure awesomeness]
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    I think Pete only had to order 5 of each the models he had in Diablo Blue
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    When I did our first exclusive Diablo Blue run I ordered 26 pieces, essentially all the same color. I chose the JP15, JP6, L3 HH, Axis SuperSport Semi-Hollow Trem, StingRay Special basses, and the Armada. With the exception of the Armada the quantity was 5 pieces on each model. I ordered the L3 in the HH configuration because in my store those have sold better than the HSS configuration.

    The piece count ordered for any exclusive run has to make sense to both the factory and to the dealer <<<--- this is the most important thing to remember.

    I know that some dealers chose for their exclusive run different colors on each of several models that they ordered, while some focused on only a few models but ordered a larger quantity of them in the same color - this is evident on their websites.

    While I was at the factory designing the run in early March 2019 with Brian, Scott, and the rest of the crew, the instruments weren't actually built until late Q4 2019. After the run was submitted and entered into the build system (which took some time for the new codes to be worked out) I would not have been able to add on orders for the HSS. With only X number of production slots available on a given day, adding an extra single piece (or even 5-6) after the run is completed would be a big disruption, especially in alternate configurations. The factory has to source more paint & materials specific to the package, clean the paint guns at least 2 extra times for the color change, load different build & buffing programs, etc.

    With all that being said, I look forward to doing another exclusive run in the near future and adding a few new models along with some tweaks to make it a little different from the first Diablo Blue run. So as to not entirely hijack this thread, my email is below for those who may have any questions directly pertaining to that topic.
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    Pete, you rock man!!! Great read.

    Glenn |B)
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    Silhouette Special HSS in Gold Sparkle (Hardtail) [7/12/2002] [Made for Matchbox 20]
    Albert Lee 3 MM90's in White Sparkle (Hardtail) [8/14/2001] [NOS Just pure awesomeness]
    Albert Lee HH in Black Sugar (Hartail) [1/06/2011] [BFR with the 12th fret logo]


    Like BP said in the Chapman video "You've got a room full of guitars, and no money!! @ 6:00"

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    Thanks Pete - thats a really interest insight into the process.
    I for one am VERY much looking forward to seeing what you do next with them!!
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    Man, all of this has made me lust after the Silo in pacific blue sparkle at sweetwater.
    2007 Stingray 5 HS Cherry Burst / Maple FB / Ceramic Pickups
    2012 Stingray 5 H Pearl Blue / Rosewood FB / AlNiCo Pickup
    2012 Steve Morse Morse Blueburst / Rosewood FB
    2012 Luke III SSH Vintage Sunburst / Rosewood Neck
    2021 Stingray RS Pacific Blue Sparkle / Maple FB

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbonesullivan View Post
    Man, all of this has made me lust after the Silo in pacific blue sparkle at sweetwater.
    Little voice, "Get it you know you want too!!!", Hahahahahahahahaha.



    Glenn |B)
    Silhouette Special SSS in the first Fuschia Sparkle (Hardtail) [1/01/2002] [2001 NAMM piece, 1 of a kind from CLB]
    Silhouette Special HSS in Gold Sparkle (Hardtail) [7/12/2002] [Made for Matchbox 20]
    Albert Lee 3 MM90's in White Sparkle (Hardtail) [8/14/2001] [NOS Just pure awesomeness]
    Albert Lee HH in Black Sugar (Hartail) [1/06/2011] [BFR with the 12th fret logo]


    Like BP said in the Chapman video "You've got a room full of guitars, and no money!! @ 6:00"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbonesullivan View Post
    Man, all of this has made me lust after the Silo in pacific blue sparkle at sweetwater.
    I was forced to get the Sabre in Pacific Blue Sparkle. Forced.

    The Luke in that color may or may not be in my cart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlf599 View Post
    I was forced to get the Sabre in Pacific Blue Sparkle. Forced.

    The Luke in that color may or may not be in my cart.
    Hahahahahahaha, forced, good for you, if it's in your cart!!

    Glenn |B)
    Silhouette Special SSS in the first Fuschia Sparkle (Hardtail) [1/01/2002] [2001 NAMM piece, 1 of a kind from CLB]
    Silhouette Special HSS in Gold Sparkle (Hardtail) [7/12/2002] [Made for Matchbox 20]
    Albert Lee 3 MM90's in White Sparkle (Hardtail) [8/14/2001] [NOS Just pure awesomeness]
    Albert Lee HH in Black Sugar (Hartail) [1/06/2011] [BFR with the 12th fret logo]


    Like BP said in the Chapman video "You've got a room full of guitars, and no money!! @ 6:00"

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWDavis28 View Post
    Little voice, "Get it you know you want too!!!", Hahahahahahahahaha.

    Glenn |B)
    I'm really considering it. Then I'll throw a Tone zone in the bridge and play 80s riffs all day. I have no idea what the Virtual PAFS are like though... hmmm.

    Though.. there's always the stingray. CHOICES.
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    2007 Stingray 5 HS Cherry Burst / Maple FB / Ceramic Pickups
    2012 Stingray 5 H Pearl Blue / Rosewood FB / AlNiCo Pickup
    2012 Steve Morse Morse Blueburst / Rosewood FB
    2012 Luke III SSH Vintage Sunburst / Rosewood Neck
    2021 Stingray RS Pacific Blue Sparkle / Maple FB

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteDuBaldo View Post
    After the run was submitted and entered into the build system (which took some time for the new codes to be worked out) I would not have been able to add on orders for the HSS.
    Ah - thanks for the information! I was hoping Sweetwater would be able to make a quick call and change one of the HHs they have on order to an HSS, but it looks like that's impossible.

    I might look into getting one of my Lukes refinished in something close to Eclipse Sparkle instead. I'm not sure a third party will get that close though - Music Man have the best sparkle finishes in the industry in my opinion!
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    Luke 2 Luke Blue
    Luke 2 BFR True Gold Rosewood
    Luke 3 PDN Bodhi Blue Rosewood
    JP6 Dragon's Blood Quilt
    JP6 White Pearl MH
    JP6 PDN Starry Night MH
    Stingray Short Scale Bass Starry Night
    Cutlass PDN Starry Night MH
    Cutlass Ghostwood
    Cutlass Black
    Valentine Saturn Gold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuoso View Post
    I might look into getting one of my Lukes refinished in something close to Eclipse Sparkle instead. I'm not sure a third party will get that close though - Music Man have the best sparkle finishes in the industry in my opinion!
    OOof. That is always a tough choice. They do have a Luke III in that color... probably easier than trying to get one refinished. That poly is not easy to get off the body.
    2007 Stingray 5 HS Cherry Burst / Maple FB / Ceramic Pickups
    2012 Stingray 5 H Pearl Blue / Rosewood FB / AlNiCo Pickup
    2012 Steve Morse Morse Blueburst / Rosewood FB
    2012 Luke III SSH Vintage Sunburst / Rosewood Neck
    2021 Stingray RS Pacific Blue Sparkle / Maple FB

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