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Outrageous auction on a 92 SR4

This is a discussion on Outrageous auction on a 92 SR4 within the Music Man Basses forums, part of the Gear Talk category; Something just seems fishy about the bidders, that's all. Bidding over 2-1/2 times the going rate just seems real fishy. ...

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    Something just seems fishy about the bidders, that's all. Bidding over 2-1/2 times the going rate just seems real fishy. One with a 2eq would be harder to find.
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    I wont say whether or not I think this bass is worth that price, but the reason it's so high is due to Shill Bidding. It's obvious if you look at the bid history.

    The bidder with the one feedback point, with the user name that shows as z***_ is the shill bidder. You can tell, because he kept bidding and each time he got outbid. Up until $2500. The other bidder probably has a max of $2400, or just shy of $2500. Once he stopped getting outbid by the other bidders max bid, he retracted his latest bid with the reason "Couldn't contact seller" (Why only that bid and not all your others hmmm??) Putting the other bidder back on top, at his max.

    Now if that other bidder is legit, then he obviously wants it enough to bid a max of $2400, so obviously its worth that to someone. But this auction never should have gotten that high in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacD View Post
    Now if that other bidder is legit, then he obviously wants it enough to bid a max of $2400, so obviously its worth that to someone. But this auction never should have gotten that high in the first place.
    Perceived value, too much disposable income, and the inability to accept defeat from another bidder.

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    The time stamp for the all the current high bidders bids shows that he bid that high before the other guy started shilling. So it wasn't that he didn't want to accept defeat. He just bid really high, really early.

    I don't know why people put such high bids so early on in an auction. If you really want it, and are willing to pay that much, then that's all well and good. But wait until the last couple of minutes, and then place a max $2400 bid. You have a better chance of winning at that point, and you may not have to pay the full $2400.
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    I just bought a 2007 LE SR today for about $1000 less than the current price of this bass. $2400 is crazy IMO. The seller got real lucky on this one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacD View Post
    The bidder with the one feedback point, with the user name that shows as z***_ is the shill bidder. You can tell, because he kept bidding and each time he got outbid. Up until $2500. The other bidder probably has a max of $2400, or just shy of $2500.
    The bidding was automatic. g***b had the max set to 2400, and z***_ just wanted to know how far the other bidder would go. That really really sucks! What an a$$

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    Perceived value, too much disposable income, and the inability to accept defeat from another bidder.
    Or just from another continent. All I can tell you is, that to me many standard MM instruments on US eBay would be dead cheap compared to what they go for in Europe. And even the rare ones in the US go for less than a plain average one in EU. It's amazing to see how many US sellers limit their possible revenue by not shipping overseas...
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    Well, I guess the eventual winner flaked (big surprise, huh?). The bass was re-listed & someone snagged it for the buy-now price of $1500.00.

    Edit: I might've done the same thing if I'd seen the re-list notification email earlier.

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    hmmmm have a fretless in blueburst from the same era......might be persuaded to part with it....(or swap for a SR5 single H)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlbates99 View Post
    Well, I guess the eventual winner flaked (big surprise, huh?). The bass was re-listed & someone snagged it for the buy-now price of $1500.00.

    Edit: I might've done the same thing if I'd seen the re-list notification email earlier.

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    It looks like the bass was bought at the $2400 and $1500 prices by the same bidder (our new member barginkov), who also bought my blueburst. Must be quite a story there.

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    hey maybe the bidder found this thread and realizd he was paying a stiff price at 2400?
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    I still think it was a shill bid (or bids) that no one took the bait on...past a certain point, that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverburst View Post
    It looks like the bass was bought at the $2400 and $1500 prices by the same bidder (our new member barginkov), who also bought my blueburst. Must be quite a story there.
    Innnnnteresting.
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