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Stingray + Sansamp

This is a discussion on Stingray + Sansamp within the Music Man Basses forums, part of the Gear Talk category; My Stingray dont fit with the Programmable 3 button Sansamp preamp. I´d try a lot of combinations, pad button, tweaking ...

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    Unhappy Stingray + Sansamp

    My Stingray dont fit with the Programmable 3 button Sansamp preamp. I´d try a lot of combinations, pad button, tweaking knobs, going to a power section of my GK, going to a semipro sound card. A nasty distorted bass sound, something like a clipped signal its the sound that I hear. A very very light playing style cure the problem, but its insanely light to play normally. After reading and reading forums, friends and pseudo techs, I have the same response: the bass preamp it´s overdriving the sansamp. "Don´t put your bass volume pot all the way up". The situation its worst with 18V preamps like Bongos. The fact is, at half volume, the bass don´t have the same tone and feel like at full volume. My 3 eq pots are at the detent. I´d read a lot of users post that the Stingray Sansamp combination its a dream combination. Not for me. Unpluggin the Ray and pluggin my 74 P don´t show the issue.
    Sansamp manual say that the input signal level of the unit should be clode to a standard electric guitar (-10db/250mV). Somebody knows the output voltage of the Stingray (2005) preamp?
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    i actually play guitar. thus am retarded. but why would you put two preamps in line? is there an noticeable loss of tone without the SA? or is it for speaker simming? amping an amp always overdrives something, and being that the SA is solid state, it's a nasty kinda distortion. on the other hand, i think it's a bit shabby makesmanship if a pre/amp doesn't have enough headroom or an input trim pot.

    Oh, and if the voltage should be the same as an electrical guitar, then your ****ed. it almost certainly means you'll be stuck using passive pickups/basses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante View Post
    i actually play guitar. thus am retarded. but why would you put two preamps in line?
    I'm not sure you're retarded here.

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    I never used mine with an active bass as I saw no reason to.

    June 28/09 Edit:

    O.k., after a rummage through my gear collection, I have deleted my comments re: Tech 21 not recommending their pre-amp for use with active basses (my apologies to Tech-21), as I was mistaken in my comment. It is my Sadowsky outboard pre-amp (pedal) that I have read works better with passive basses. In the end, it really doesn't matter I guess, as long as you like the end result.
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    That little button on the Sansamp labelled "1/4" out boost" needs to be off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobalu View Post
    IIRC, and I had a Sans Amp a while back, Tech 21 specifically state that it is not recommended for use with active bass's.
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    I used both a Programmable BDDI and the single-channel BDDI, both with my 2000 SR5, both when I put my volume knob at "10" (which I've since learned not to do), and all of it going into a GK head. Also recorded with it in a studio. I never had any problems, at all. Sounded good, but I noticed the SansAmp really colored my tone, even when off. Took most of the growl out of my sound. Sounds like either a setting is wrong, or you need to have Tech 21 take alook at it.
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    I been using my SR5 with a Programmable 3 button Sansamp preamp and I have no problem with tone, Just make sure you not over driving you amp. What I do is set my Programmable 3 button Sansamp preamp flat and dial in my setting on the amp ( keeping the EQ on bass flat ) near the sound I want then ajust the Sansamp. I then just increase the EQ on the bass very little to get my overall sound.

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