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Birdseye maple necks

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    So that's what's going on with your hair - it has both moose AND squirrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jongitarz
    There is no "Sales Gimmick" on our part. In my experience, birdseye is less stable. Not all of the time, but it is a factor. Believe what you want, but we don't have secret sales meetings where we decide how to dump plain maple on the masses. There are a few birdseye bass necks that go through. even some with flame. Luck of the draw people..thats all
    I don't beleive the thread said anything about EBMM.
    hankSray's thread spoke of Warmoth.com, not EBMM. my reply was in reference to his remark, besides it was a pun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oddjob
    If my understanding is correct (which is what a couple of lutheriers told me years ago), the bird's eye is cause by mineral deposits in the wood that cause the deformation causing the "eye" as the wood grows around it. From a stability point it is fine. From an appearence standpoint it falls into the catagory of flamed and spalted Maple (harder to find quality specimens of good wood, so it is more expensive to the consumer). Then it just comes down to personal taste. Some people love it, others don't. You are paying extra for the look.
    I believe spalted wood is often soaked in water as well.

    Flamed, tigerstripe, fiddleback, quilted and birdseye are all defects in the lumber and yes most defects like this are due to mineral deposits. They are mostly refered too as "desireable defects", which simply means people like the appearence and will pay more to get it. Couple that with availability and the price climbs. I have know idea whether those defects affect stability and strength. If I had to guess, I'd say a piece of regular hard maple would be stronger and more stabile than a heavily birdseyed piece. The question really becomes how noticeable would it be? Hard Maple is an extremely hard and strong lumber and I'd find it hard to believe most would notice the difference between a birdseye and regular maple neck with their eyes closed.

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    I always thought birdseye was just a half assed knot in the wood.

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    Yeah, me too.

    A guy who laid a wooden floor for me told me that birds a$$es are where little sprigs sprouted in the tree and the flaming effect was due to a kind of bending of the wood in windy conditions that led to the 'stretched' grain or flame look.

    BTW I have a '97 with a rose board and the back of the neck is birdy butt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jongitarz
    There is no "Sales Gimmick" on our part. In my experience, birdseye is less stable. Not all of the time, but it is a factor. Believe what you want, but we don't have secret sales meetings where we decide how to dump plain maple on the masses. There are a few birdseye bass necks that go through. even some with flame. Luck of the draw people..thats all


    well then that would make sense. my 2000 stingray 4 has birds eye and im adjusting the neck once a week.


    so yeah, if i wanted a regular maple neck, i could get one traded up right?
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    Well, you could buy a new neck

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    im adjusting the neck once a week.
    Okay, just to be sure, you're not stepping on the neck, are you?

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    Jack, now I am laughing out loud...Thank You Sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by jongitarz
    Well, you could buy a new neck

    no, i meant buy. i know i would have to send mine in to get another one, but if i had a birdseye, i could get a regular?


    oh, and bovine, you are really taking that joke a bit far arent you? i'm sure you never stepped on a cable that was plugged in to your guitar.
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    Yes, if we got your old neck back we could hook you up with a plain maple neck. Do you have a matching headstock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jongitarz
    Yes, if we got your old neck back we could hook you up with a plain maple neck. Do you have a matching headstock?
    no
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    Ok...A new neck is $300.00 With a fret job and setup done by me. If you want to do this, email me jons@ernieball.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by jongitarz
    Ok...A new neck is $300.00 With a fret job and setup done by me. If you want to do this, email me jons@ernieball.com
    do you know how long it would take?
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    Probably around a week plus shipping time

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