adding a Power Amp

[Mobay45]

I turned off the EQ on my Hartke 3500 the first time I played my Stingray through it and haven't turned it on since. With so much control on the bass, I just don't seem to have a need for EQ at the amp. I can't imagine what a Bongo would be like with it's splt mid controls.

[xshawnxearthx]

I turned off the EQ on my Hartke 3500 the first time I played my Stingray through it and haven't turned it on since. With so much control on the bass, I just don't seem to have a need for EQ at the amp. I can't imagine what a Bongo would be like with it's splt mid controls.

i originally had a hartke, bought so much stuff to make it sound good, then i realized the amp just wasnt for me.

for some reason, the eq's on amps just suck with the stingray, unless i want a really warm jazz tone, or a very bass driven melodic r&b style, but for what i do, its always off.

ive found if i can crank the eq's on the stingray(without peaking everytime i hit the strings) it would be amazing. the sound is so bass and rich, even at the mid dentent, its prefect.

[Ben Clarke]

So let say he bought a power amp in e.g. 1000W, that means he will eventually get only the 1000W or 1000W + 450W (svt-3 pro) = 1450?

Because now we assume the svt3 as the pre-amp same as (svp-pro) right?

Using the pre out would bypass the power section of the SVT, while the variable line out wouldn't affect the Ampeg's operation at all. Adding a rig in that way (assuming 1000w amp with the same speaker setup as the Ampeg) would add about 6dB in volume.

[Ben Clarke]

if its mic'd no problem, if we are playing a hall, our an outdoor gig, it just suckkkkkks major ass.

That's why they make PAs. I carry my own mic and DI. I never want to hear that the engineer only has an SM57 leftover for the bass!

[xshawnxearthx]

yeah, if we are playign a club, or a big venue, i always bring a mic because if i dont, its either direct from my bass through the system, or the di on my amp to the system, which without the cab, it always sounds nasely.


so i sucked it up, and bought a really good mic, and now i insist that they do not use the di box and only use the mic. nowi have no problems with the sound through a huge house sound system.

the genre my band played(hardcore/punk) its usually a hall show, with a pa thats just for the vocals, which usually makes it sound good. 7 times out of ten, its a hall show where we dont mic anything. it always sounds good.


im just a sound guys worse nightmare. up untill i had the mic, i would be a pain in the ass about putting a mic on it because they were so headstrong on the di. they usually say they would but done have a mic, now that i bring th emic, they really have no choice.

[Ben Clarke]

Another way to attack that (which I haven't done yet) is to get one of those Fishman Blenders. It's got a mic pre and DI built in to one box. The engineer gets his one line, and you get the best of both worlds. I insist on using both mic and DI.


What mic are you using? I usually use the Audix D4, and prefer the Countryman Type 85 DI, though I don't own one yet.

[tkarter]

What is wrong with an SM 57 for the bass?

tk

[xshawnxearthx]

i recently got the shure pg52-xlr dynamic with xlr cable...

sounds beefy.


its basically a kick drum mic, that can be used for both.

i want to try the new svt di, and also if i ever use my sans amp again, i'll use that.

[xshawnxearthx]

What is wrong with an SM 57 for the bass?

tk

i think its a vocal mic.

[tkarter]

i think its a vocal mic.

My experience is it works really well for an instrument mic. I am willing to listen to other's thoughts on the subject.

Guess we have further hijacked the thread here too.

tk

[Ben Clarke]

What is wrong with an SM 57 for the bass?

tk

There's really no response below about 55Hz, and a mean presence peak. Also, odds are if that's what the guy wants to put on your bass amp, chances are he'll have a 58 on vocals (not that there's anything wrong with that), and that presence peak from the bass amp will compete with the identical presence peak of the vocal mic.

[Melv]

What mic would u suggest instead of a SM 57 for a bass rig?

[Ben Clarke]

What mic would u suggest instead of a SM 57 for a bass rig?

I'll go to the other thread I just started with this.

[tkarter]

There's really no response below about 55Hz, and a mean presence peak. Also, odds are if that's what the guy wants to put on your bass amp, chances are he'll have a 58 on vocals (not that there's anything wrong with that), and that presence peak from the bass amp will compete with the identical presence peak of the vocal mic.

That makes sense.

tk

[johans]

hey guys
great input on the eq

i should try to turn the eq off too maybe
i notice everytime i play i still dont get the perfect tone im looking for
probably flat and off from the svt3pro, i'll be fine with my ray setting