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EB 5 String Flatwounds are nice

This is a discussion on EB 5 String Flatwounds are nice within the Music Man Basses forums, part of the Gear Talk category; I've had these on for a few days and am impressed - the piezo on my Bongo5HHp comes in really ...

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    EB 5 String Flatwounds are nice

    I've had these on for a few days and am impressed - the piezo on my Bongo5HHp comes in really handy now for subtle accents to hi mids and attack... in a different way than with Slinky roundwounds.

    I'll keep you posted but so far so good.

    What I like about them:
    1) Tone - even across strings and G string probably best I've heard on the Bongo
    2) Tone - zinginess dies quick compared to Chromes which seem to take a while
    3) Tone - Low notes are thick and have good sustain
    4) Tone - Notes have "wooliness" and not "woofiness"... hard to describe
    5) Tone - Nice low mids. The Bongo's mid control can be put to good use
    5) Tension - on the high side but about the same or slightly higher than Slinky's
    3) Feel - not sticky, very smooth. No string noise.
    4) Looks - I think the flats just look great. Blue silk ends if that matters to anyone.

    Did I mention I like the tone?

    I highly recommend them if you want to try flats on a fretted bass especially if you have a piezo option.

    IME and IMHO
    I'm curious if these are hex or round cores... I could have checked but forgot to.

    P.S. This is the set 2810 - the only five string flatwound I'm aware of.
    P.P.S. I didn't put this in the strings forum as I think this invokes the Bongo and piezo combination as an important factor.
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    Bongo + Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 + Epifani UL2-112 = Tone
    Review of Coated Slinkies here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...-slinkies.html
    and flatwound Slinkies here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...unds-nice.html
    Bongo EQ suggestions here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...readsheet.html

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    Yeah, I love the piezos with the EB flats. It sounds like your HHp 5 from 2004 is a litter mate to mine. A great combination, to be sure.
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    bongos and flats... mmmm

    i love it!

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    I'm a HHp-er aswell and I love flats on him!
    lets get together and make the grass grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassmonkeee View Post
    Yeah, I love the piezos with the EB flats. It sounds like your HHp 5 from 2004 is a litter mate to mine. A great combination, to be sure.
    litter mate... he he he I like that

    Maybe made from the same lumber, who knows?

    SHp??? do you mean HSp on your signature?
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    Bongo + Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 + Epifani UL2-112 = Tone
    Review of Coated Slinkies here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...-slinkies.html
    and flatwound Slinkies here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...unds-nice.html
    Bongo EQ suggestions here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...readsheet.html

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    I feel you.

    Ive got EB flats on my 2 band Ray and its quite nice.

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    I'm waiting for some to come in, I put Lakie Joe Osborn flats on my 25th, I like them, but they are very dark and don't really take advantage of the full tonal spectrum the bass offers. My big concern as always is: How is the B string. The JO B string is pretty good,a little slow to develop, and dark, but not clunky. The Chrome B string has worked well for me, so I'm hoping the EB will be similar. I'm glad to hear reports that they die out a little quicker than Chromes - those strings take years to mellow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdFriedland View Post
    I'm waiting for some to come in, I put Lakie Joe Osborn flats on my 25th, I like them, but they are very dark and don't really take advantage of the full tonal spectrum the bass offers. My big concern as always is: How is the B string. The JO B string is pretty good,a little slow to develop, and dark, but not clunky. The Chrome B string has worked well for me, so I'm hoping the EB will be similar. I'm glad to hear reports that they die out a little quicker than Chromes - those strings take years to mellow.
    Ed,
    Great to have you comment here! I love your reviews ("...I think it looks grey, in an Egyptian Smoke kind of way" he he he)

    I actually think the EB B string sounds better than the Chrome's... but the Chrome B was on only for a couple of weeks, so you can imagine it was still zingy. The B sounds very substantial to me - thick, burpy, defined, lots of fundamental with just the right amount of overtones. Again, adding a hint of piezo signal was very important to me in dialing things in. This could be approximated with some hi mids and highs I guess.
    I'll do some listening on it tonight to see if my opinion would change any.

    I've read that broken in Chromes and EB flats are similar, although I cannot comment based on my experience.

    I look forward to your review.

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    Last edited by shakinbacon; 09-02-2009 at 05:46 PM.
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    Bongo + Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 + Epifani UL2-112 = Tone
    Review of Coated Slinkies here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...-slinkies.html
    and flatwound Slinkies here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...unds-nice.html
    Bongo EQ suggestions here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...readsheet.html

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    I run Group I flats with a .130 B on all three of my fivers - great tone!
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    Is there a 6 string set of Group I?

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    Wow, Group I with a 130? You must have hands of steel. I imagine that puts a lot of tension on the neck. I put the Group IV on a bass and found them to be almost like a TI in terms of feel and tone, certainly cost less. Well, I'll try the Group III for tension first. With Chromes, I was using the 50-105 set and found them tight but workable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdFriedland View Post
    Wow, Group I with a 130? You must have hands of steel. I imagine that puts a lot of tension on the neck. I put the Group IV on a bass and found them to be almost like a TI in terms of feel and tone, certainly cost less. Well, I'll try the Group III for tension first. With Chromes, I was using the 50-105 set and found them tight but workable.
    The 5 string set 2810 is 45-65-80-100-130 just like the regular Slinky set that comes shipped with the 5 string basses. I like the tension of the flats - little higher than the Slinkys but feels good to me.
    2004 Saphire Black/White Pearloid Bongo 5HHp
    Bongo + Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 + Epifani UL2-112 = Tone
    Review of Coated Slinkies here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...-slinkies.html
    and flatwound Slinkies here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...unds-nice.html
    Bongo EQ suggestions here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...readsheet.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakinbacon View Post
    litter mate... he he he I like that

    Maybe made from the same lumber, who knows?

    SHp??? do you mean HSp on your signature?
    SHp, HSp. Same thing. I was just going from the neck to the bridge with the pickups. Single coil, humbucker, piezo on the fretless. Double humbucker and piezos on the fretted.
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    Dargie Delight Bongo 5 SHp, fretted, Dargie, b/w/b pickgaurd, Dargie. Ernie Ball straplocks. EB Cobalts.

    Franken-Bongo 5 SHp (Moby, the White Whale), fretted, white, cigar leaf sating finish, tort pickguard. Purple silk Flats.

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    The more I play these the more I'm impressed. Got to play through my rig at a bit of volume... SOLID tone. Can't wait to play these out on a gig
    2004 Saphire Black/White Pearloid Bongo 5HHp
    Bongo + Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 + Epifani UL2-112 = Tone
    Review of Coated Slinkies here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...-slinkies.html
    and flatwound Slinkies here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...unds-nice.html
    Bongo EQ suggestions here http://www.ernieball.com/forums/musi...readsheet.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakinbacon View Post
    The 5 string set 2810 is 45-65-80-100-130 just like the regular Slinky set that comes shipped with the 5 string basses. I like the tension of the flats - little higher than the Slinkys but feels good to me.
    Seems like the same as teh Group III flats for the 4 with the 130 for the low B at the end.
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