Insane European prices

**Jimmyb** · 01-03-2010, 11:31 AM

A lot of people won't ship to Europe because of the risks with shipping etc, but to a large extent, this can be avoided with good communication between buyer and seller.

The only thing that I ever experienced a problem with was a pedal I bought on E-bay from a seller in the US. He was really reluctant to send me the tracking number and kept insisting I check with Customs (not that easy to do when you don't know when it was supposed to arrive). The pedal never reached me, but to be honest, I don't think he ever sent it. Still, lesson learned.

With EBMM's you can't buy them new, because it voids the dealer's agreement, ie they can only sell in their own country. This is done to alleviate warranty issues that may arise, after all, why should the importer have to look at repairs for guitars that they never handled?

Anyway, it is what it is, I'm sure if BP could change it and be fair to everyone (including the distributors who have supported EBMM for so long) I'm sure he would.

**Jimmyb** · 01-03-2010, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by DTG

dell now sell in shops like pc world etc

they are also pulling out of ireland because it cheaper to make them in india now.the only reason they set up here is because of the tax benfits that our goverment gave them.
dont get me wrong what mickey dell did really worked,but customers are numbers to them and thats something i hope will never happen to EBMM.

Great point Dave!

**DTG** · 01-03-2010, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by tommixx

I have offered to sell to International buyers for about a year now and have done several deals. The thing for me was that a lot of them wanted me to declare the value at a HUGE discount to the actual value of the item sold. That made me very leery about doing the deal. I cringe at the thought of sending a $3,000 or $4,000 instrument across the globe with no insurance! I have bought and sold thousands of items and had to ship and had them shipped to me and I have been fortunate enough to have only needed to file a claim in a few instances so I guess the numbers are on the buyer's side to be fair. BUT what if the item is lost or stolen and the insured value is so much lower than the replacement value? Will the buyer expect me to make it good? I am really interested in this because it seems like I could help a lot of people out and essentially keep trying out a lot of stuff and not lose any money in the process. I am surprised I have not done this MUCH sooner! If it is possible to make it work and not have the risk hanging over my head I would have no problem selling exclusively internationally. Maybe even offer some kind of buying service. I don't know, what do you guys think?

I would love to sell my Natural SR5 HH and replace it with a Natural SR 5 H right now but I would take such a beating selling it in the US that it does not make sense to do it financially. If I could at least get what I have in it back out of it I would gladly sell it today and have a 5H in just a few days to replace it!

Peace,

T

Yeah I dont think it would work out too well.1 customs and 2 karma thing again.but I dont see any issue selling the odd bass

**cellkirk74** · 01-03-2010, 02:26 PM

I think you will be getting better prices if you sell used stuff to europe at the moment than you will get in the states.

**Smallmouth_Bass** · 01-03-2010, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by tommixx

I have offered to sell to International buyers for about a year now and have done several deals. The thing for me was that a lot of them wanted me to declare the value at a HUGE discount to the actual value of the item sold. That made me very leery about doing the deal. I cringe at the thought of sending a $3,000 or $4,000 instrument across the globe with no insurance! ... Will the buyer expect me to make it good?

I have yet to sell a bass internationally or even long distance on the continent, but being the seller, you have to assure that instrument gets to the buyer in good condition or be able to reimburse the purchase price. I can understand the buyer wanting to pay as little as possible in customs and taxes, but personally, I would make it a condition of any sale that it had to be fully declared and insured.

**Spudmurphy** · 01-03-2010, 02:57 PM

Caveat Emptor
If the buyer wants the seller to under declare the value to escape paying duty/taxes then he (the buyer) will have to face up to the consequences if the package goes missing or is damaged IE the buyer will only recover a fraction of the true value and obviously less than he has paid to the seller

Also beware under declaring items, because it has been known for Customs Officers to understand the true amount of the guitar and levy on that true amount.
Spud

**Subscript** · 01-03-2010, 02:59 PM

If you're willing to ship internationally you will for sure get more interest in whatever it is you're selling online.

**DTG** · 01-03-2010, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Jimmyb

Dear France,

I would like to complain, as the French wine that I bought in my local shop is far more expensive than it is in France.

I suggest in future that all transport and import costs are negated, so that I can buy this wine at the same price that it is in the country of manufacture.

Love
Jimmy

Very funny dude best post I have read in ages