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This is a discussion on StingRay Sound Examples within the Music Man Basses forums, part of the Gear Talk category; Originally Posted by miliouz Can you make some soundclip with 2 and 3eq mapple touch? If you buy me the ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by miliouz View Post
    Can you make some soundclip with 2 and 3eq mapple touch?
    If you buy me the basses...
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    hehe.. we should buy you new sets of strings to put on all the basses for your work

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    Great work Oli!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oli@bass View Post
    If you buy me the basses...


    The price list for a musicman is exaggerated in Europe (and in France, even worse). Without taking into account possible customs duties, a stingray HH would cost you 3300 dollars about, for a standard version.

    It would thus be more profitable that you buy them you


    Thanks a lot for you're soundclips!
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    great playing Brent,thanks for the clips.

    i love the namm 100th.

    my 93 stingray is 2 band my SR5 is 3 band.they both sound different to me and i swap between them at gigs.when i am playing the SR4 i like it more and when i play my SR5 i like it more !!

    i guess i am just very happy with both !!

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    Added examples for the

    30th Anniversary StingRay

    Hear the sound of a StingRay with mahogany body and 3 band EQ, even in passive mode (without a battery).

    Enjoy.
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    Thanks for accommodating the request. As expected, I think the 30th sounds the best. It's the most well rounded and organic sounding of all the samples, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oli@bass View Post
    Added examples for the

    30th Anniversary StingRay

    Hear the sound of a StingRay with mahogany body and 3 band EQ, even in passive mode (without a battery).

    Enjoy.
    wait? they're not silenced without a battery?!??!??!?


    also i think there were discernable differences in the pickup material used for the 93 and early 2000 rays. that may be the reason the 3eq sr5 sounds different from the 2eq sr4.


    i think its all just speculation im personally chalking it up to the boost only being able to be set at a definite zero as where the cut/boost bass knob isnt always necessarly on a definite zero, as it may be on a -1 or +1 but thats just me .

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    Thank you everyone for the kind words, and comments on my playing. I have to admit that I did touch up a couple of takes, but just to have them being played as smooth and evenly comparable as possible, and not having any playing oddities distract you from the sound itself. Also, a couple of times clipping occured and I had to replace that part from another take. All that was made in Logic using the new Take Folder feature, which is really a dream come true for the home recoring musician.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertB View Post
    Thanks for accommodating the request.
    You're welcome, but I wasn't. I've planned to make recordings of all of them for a long time, and finally get around it. The preparation is the hardest thing to do. Once everything is set up, it's pretty painless to do. The main problem is to get in the mood and play each example with the same attitude.

    There will be a couple of others following, like the 20th Anniversary (all maple, for those maple lovers) and the Ebony Edition. I also plan on doing recordings of several stock SR4 HH's in order to compare the differences attributable to different pieces of the same woods.

    What I find interesting so far is, the the differences "feel" much more obvious while playing than while listening. Seems that the feel and response of the instruments plays tricks on our ears!

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    wait? they're not silenced without a battery?!??!??!?
    No. But the passive output is way lower than the preamp. Still it's enough to play the bass amplified, just need a lot of gain on the input stage. And that's the way how you get the unaltered "flat" sound of the pickup. Also works on the 2 band. Enjoy.

    Quote Originally Posted by kevins View Post
    also i think there were discernable differences in the pickup material used for the 93 and early 2000 rays. that may be the reason the 3eq sr5 sounds different from the 2eq sr4.
    There are discernable differences in the StingRay and StingRay 5! They have completely different electronic packages. Your 2000 SR5 will even have a pickup with ceramic magnets, while the StingRay 4 always has alnico magnets.

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    i think its all just speculation im personally chalking it up to the boost only being able to be set at a definite zero as where the cut/boost bass knob isnt always necessarly on a definite zero, as it may be on a -1 or +1 but thats just me .
    Gathering facts (not rumours), doing recordings and frequency analysis is not just speculation.

    I don't know how it is made but the 3 band preamp either has a high pass filter in place, or the EQ is a peak type not a shelving type like on the 2 band. The 3 band always produces much less output at 20 Hz and thus sounds more "tight" than the 2 band preamp.

    However, what I think is most important to all that: All of the StingRays sound like StingRays! I could work with any of them and get the sound I want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oli@bass View Post
    I don't know how it is made but the 3 band preamp either has a high pass filter in place, or the EQ is a peak type not a shelving type like on the 2 band. The 3 band always produces much less output at 20 Hz and thus sounds more "tight" than the 2 band preamp.

    However, what I think is most important to all that: All of the StingRays sound like StingRays! I could work with any of them and get the sound I want.
    definitely will agree with you on the top part and bottom part there!

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    These are great, Oli. Nice playing.

    The 2 band also seems to have more high than the 3 bands. Can't wait to get another 2 band Ray!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oli@bass View Post
    You're welcome, but I wasn't. I've planned to make recordings of all of them for a long time, and finally get around it.
    Aw, you mean it wasn't just for me, personally?? Kidding, I figured you were planning to do the 30th and others eventually - just thought maybe I could affect the order. =) Anyway, I got to hear what I wanted to hear, so still .. thanks.

    Also eager to hear the 20th - forgot about that one, which is crazy, cuz it's still my favorite StingRay. Eager to hear the Ebony Edition too, when you get to that one.

    I totally agree that despite subtle differences, the essence and spirit of each & all of them is consistent - especially when considering the various single H models (the HH sounds are definitely discernible). One observation/opinion about this that I've always had, though, is that the differences between them are quite a bit more pronounced when playing slap. To me, that's when the otherwise more subtle differences really come out.

    Now, don't take me the wrong way - I'm not saying you "shoulda" done slap samples, or "should" do them. I know it takes time, effort, patience and persistence to do what you've done here, and in the way you've done it, which is superb. The permutations would explode if you did all possibilities, including fretless, etc...

    And let me take a second to emphasize prolly the coolest thing about this set of samples - these are all basses you own ... that is a FINE collection, Oli. It's been fun watching you get them together over time.
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    30th Passive?

    Very cool project you have here Oli.

    I didn't know you could get sound out of the 30th Anniversary without the battery? How??
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginRog View Post
    Very cool project you have here Oli.

    I didn't know you could get sound out of the 30th Anniversary without the battery? How??
    Yeah, when I had mine, I played it quite happily for a little while before realizing that it didn't ship (from the dealer) with a battery, and that I'd been playing passive. Imagine how happy I was when I popped that sucker in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oli@bass View Post
    Added examples for the

    30th Anniversary StingRay

    Hear the sound of a StingRay with mahogany body and 3 band EQ, even in passive mode (without a battery).

    Enjoy.
    I didn't know a passive mode was possible on these?
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