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    Stereo Volume/Pan Pedal

    Hello-
    I have a panning question about the Ernie Ball Stereo Volume/Pan pedal...

    I have an 8 ohm Avatar 2x12 with 15 watt Cel. Blues in it.
    I run a Vox AC30 head thru it, and an Orange Tiny Terror head. Separately that is- I'll pull the speaker wire out and take turns.
    I've wanted to A-B them for awhile- so this is what I am considering...

    I'm thinking it would be fun to use an Ernie Ball Stereo Volume/Pan pedal to A-B the two amps. The pan feature will pan from amp A to amp B, heel to toe.
    Question- In this type of setup, since the Avatar has two inputs, can I safely plug both amp heads into the cab?
    I figure, with the panning, the load will always around the same, so it should be safe for the speakers, right?

    thanks...
    Jack

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    Hmm don't know how you imagine this but sounds to me that you're going to short your poweramp which causes you're output transformer to blow.

    Perhaps you can post a drawing of the setup you had in mind.

    Kind regards,

    Bas

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    Hi and welcome to the forum.
    I don't think that this would be such a good idea as Bassey says.

    I have the pedal you are talking about and it's a great pedal, but for the same kind of money would't it be best to get another speaker cab? - then just geta simple a/b switch.

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    You would have to plug both heads into the outputs of the pedal and the cab into the input A, and I don't think the pedal was designed for that. Plus, you'll be loading your heads more than what's right each time you pan it out. So I'd say just get another cab and put the pedal just after the guitar, or get a simple AB switch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudmurphy View Post
    I have the pedal you are talking about and it's a great pedal, but for the same kind of money would't it be best to get another speaker cab? - then just geta simple a/b switch.

    Glad I asked before I did it. Thanks for all your comments.

    How do like this pedal? When panning, does it suck tone when all the way heel or toe, or pretty transparent?

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    You cannot plug the speaker outs of the two heads into one cab, unless it's a stereo cab. Meaning that you get one speaker per amp. You can't use both heads with one speaker; you'll fry the output transformers instantly, which basically means the destruction of your heads. The speakers won't suffer...

    If the cabinet has two separate inputs (not parallell split), which are often marked as right and left/stereo, you can use one head into each input, and use the pedal between the guitar and the amp inputs to pan your signal. That'll be the most correct solution. If the cab isn't stereo, you'll have to get another one for the second head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octavarius View Post
    You cannot plug the speaker outs of the two heads into one cab, unless it's a stereo cab. Meaning that you get one speaker per amp. You can't use both heads with one speaker; you'll fry the output transformers instantly, which basically means the destruction of your heads. The speakers won't suffer...

    If the cabinet has two separate inputs (not parallell split), which are often marked as right and left/stereo, you can use one head into each input, and use the pedal between the guitar and the amp inputs to pan your signal. That'll be the most correct solution. If the cab isn't stereo, you'll have to get another one for the second head.
    That makes much more sense than what I said
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