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    Please help my guitar player

    His name is Tony L, and I am coaching him towards EBMM guitars, I like him, he can play quite well and he is a fun guy, sadly he plays pointed headstock guitars which shall go nameless.

    I showed him the sound and playability difference between a non EBMM bass and my Bongo, and his jaw hasn't yet lifted from the surprise.

    Finally he is starting to show a keen interest in Silhouettes but he would want one in a HSH pickup configuration 5 pos switch etc, because that is what he is used to play with on his I-Vai-nez lookalike guitar, is there such a Silo with those specs and a floating tremolo thing?

    Thanks all for your advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptMoto View Post
    His name is Tony L, and I am coaching him towards EBMM guitars, I like him, he can play quite well and he is a fun guy, sadly he plays pointed headstock guitars which shall go nameless.

    I showed him the sound and playability difference between a non EBMM bass and my Bongo, and his jaw hasn't yet lifted from the surprise.

    Finally he is starting to show a keen interest in Silhouettes but he would want one in a HSH pickup configuration 5 pos switch etc, because that is what he is used to play with on his I-Vai-nez lookalike guitar, is there such a Silo with those specs and a floating tremolo thing?

    Thanks all for your advice.
    Hi,

    Standard silhouettes mostly come in HSH (very rarely in SSS). They have a 5way switch and 24 frets so I imagine it would be a seamless transition. Speaking as someone who came to EBMM silhouettes from Paul Gilbert models I know he will take to them well.

    Floyds are a different matter; best to wait for a more experience board member to comment, but of the few I have seen, they are mostly early 90's models with the nut lock actually on the headstock and not the nut itself. He will find as I did that the vintage trems are capable of complete stability even under sustained abuse. Quite a feat if you ask me. The only guitars I trust to stay in tune with a non-locking trem are EBMM.

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    New silhouettes all come with HSH. Tre tremolo on the new ones is not floating (You can set it up to give You some "flutter", though). You can also find used silhouettes equipped with floyds (I Think they were produced between 1992 and 1996-1997).

    However, if he is playing an Ibanez RG or a Jem - why don't You insist that he tries out a Petrucci Model in the first place (Yeah, no HSH - but he still has a split coil sound for cleans)? It has a wide and thin neck profile (like Ibanez wizard or jem necks), a basswood body, and a floating trem. If John made this transition from a slightly modded Ibanez RG to EBMM, than Your guitar player can surely do this as well!!!
    90267 EBMM Silhouette SSS Natural Non-Trem 6-bolt, born 02-05-1990
    95857 EBMM Steve Morse Blueburst Stoptail, born 26-08-94

    0177 Ron Kirn T-Style Blonde Ash, born 06-08
    0374 Ron Kirn Barn Buster, born 11-10

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    Dear Capt.

    Trying to help a skinny stringer is like trying to navigate your ship through the channels of Venice.

    You can only light candles, sit in lotus position in the dark and read as many fortune cookies as possible....
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    Amen...

    But Big Poppa, hadn't some of us find the right way in the end?
    90267 EBMM Silhouette SSS Natural Non-Trem 6-bolt, born 02-05-1990
    95857 EBMM Steve Morse Blueburst Stoptail, born 26-08-94

    0177 Ron Kirn T-Style Blonde Ash, born 06-08
    0374 Ron Kirn Barn Buster, born 11-10

    2004 Siggi Braun Custom Shop "Brunnhild" SSH Floyd Rose

    Takamine Hirade TH 5 (classical), born 04

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Poppa View Post
    Dear Capt.

    Trying to help a skinny stringer is like trying to navigate your ship through the channels of Venice.

    You can only light candles, sit in lotus position in the dark and read as many fortune cookies as possible....
    Yep, you've got that right Mr. BP but my mate Tony L is italian like me so hopefully my message to him will "sink" in

    Very funny about the bit in Venice, I once took place in a speedboat race there and I tell you it's a nightmare on a 12 metre craft with a 600bhp hydrojet on the back of your ass!!

    Our ships sail way past the southern Giudecca canal mainly becase of low draught

    Tony L wants a Silo, he said he can't afford a JP hopefully he will try one this week and see if he can make do without the floating trem.

    Thanks all

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    Try ouiji boards or tarot
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    Please dont add me as a friend on facebook....my life is an open book here as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Poppa View Post
    Dear Capt.

    Trying to help a skinny stringer is like trying to navigate your ship through the channels of Venice.

    You can only light candles, sit in lotus position in the dark and read as many fortune cookies as possible....

    Maybe I should get a bass . ..
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    basses are fun.....

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    OT : basses are indeed fun. Had a rehearshal this morning and the bongo seduced also the rest of the band.

    As for your Guitarist try to find him an older silo with Floyd I'm sure he will love it
    EVH Hardtail Red 1995
    Axis Sport SSS Trem Transparent Purple 1998
    Axis Sport MM90 Trem Transparent Orange 1999
    Axis SS Hardtail Piezo Honeyburst 2007
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    The one current EBMM guitar with HSH pickups and a Floyd Trem is the Steve Morse model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoid70 View Post
    The one current EBMM guitar with HSH pickups and a Floyd Trem is the Steve Morse model.
    Yes!!! that is the one I was thinking... but then again the pickup configuration on the Morse looks a tad more complicate than a simple HSH, right? I believe I saw a neck bucker and a single coil stuck right next to it, wha'ts that all about?

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    Let me show you exactly why Tony L needs an EBMM Guitar...

    I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR DISPLAYING A NON EBMM ITEM IT WILL BE REMOVED SHORTLY THIS IS JUST TO HELP UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR A REAL EBMM


    With Tony L's permission I am going to show you exactly why he need to get a ball... any ball to replace this:



    now.... as you can tell Tony is a bit of a SpiderMan fan, and you wouldn't believe to what extent he is sooo crazy about SpiderMan. let me show you why, but before I do let me tell you, the man is totally sound he ain't crazy or messed up in his head as some of you will suppose by seing this pic.... it's just one of his things but apart from that he is as normal as the next guy...

    here is Tony L in his favourite outfit

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    See, i've spotted the problem right there, brother.

    It'll be an easier switch to EBMM when he switches from Yamaha to Honda.

    Then he'll realise he had it wrong all along

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    A serious spiderman fan right there

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