Ernie Ball Music Man JP6 Restoration Project!

**leftyguitarblue** · 10-29-2009, 10:32 AM

thanks for checking in Morbid.

**Kaloyan** · 10-29-2009, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Morbid

Sorry fellas, not much to update on. I spoke to my luthier and potential paint guy yesterday. He feels that the paint scheme is beyond his ability, but said he might know someone who can do it. It'll be a matter of price as to whether or not I go with his contact or not. As it turns out, finding a reliable painter that doesn't want $500 for the job is turning out to be the most difficult part! I'm also not willing to risk destroying the project by hiring the wrong person to do paint, so I've been looking very diligently. I like the frankentrucci idea though...anyone got a chainsaw I can borrow?

What sealer have you decided on?

**e.mate** · 10-29-2009, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Morbid

Sorry fellas, not much to update on. I spoke to my luthier and potential paint guy yesterday. He feels that the paint scheme is beyond his ability, but said he might know someone who can do it. It'll be a matter of price as to whether or not I go with his contact or not. As it turns out, finding a reliable painter that doesn't want $500 for the job is turning out to be the most difficult part! I'm also not willing to risk destroying the project by hiring the wrong person to do paint, so I've been looking very diligently. I like the frankentrucci idea though...anyone got a chainsaw I can borrow?

...at least you're still there. I was starting to get worried

**Morbid** · 10-29-2009, 04:11 PM

No fear emate, won't leave till this is done. I'm more eager than any of you could possibly imagine!! I want my guitar!!

Kal, haven't decided on a sealer. Not sure I'll need it. I'm assuming you mean a substitute for the nitrocelly? In which case, most of it still remains on the body...I've only sanded through on a few parts. That's part of my problem though...there's no one here that specializes in guitar paint jobs. My best bet at this point, assuming the contact doesn't work out, is an Autobody shop. At least with that I can rest at ease knowing that the autobody paint is sturdy stuff.

**Kaloyan** · 10-29-2009, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Morbid

No fear emate, won't leave till this is done. I'm more eager than any of you could possibly imagine!! I want my guitar!!

Kal, haven't decided on a sealer. Not sure I'll need it. I'm assuming you mean a substitute for the nitrocelly? In which case, most of it still remains on the body...I've only sanded through on a few parts. That's part of my problem though...there's no one here that specializes in guitar paint jobs. My best bet at this point, assuming the contact doesn't work out, is an Autobody shop. At least with that I can rest at ease knowing that the autobody paint is sturdy stuff.

Well it's awesome that you're back and sharing. Here is my perspective and it doesn't have any further intentions but to serve you as a good reference point. I did a restoration myself to a MM (not as good as yours) but wood is wood, some of it easier to work with some of it more complicated. If you really havent taken all the sealer out (the last finish before the wood) and you have left 'spots' while trying to remove it, I am not sure that whoever you bring the guitar to spray on would do an even and professional job on it. Again, it's just my opinion based on my experience. I'd personally suggest to you - remove completely the sealer (probably poly) until you reach bare wood for many reasons. It's a pain all over your body but I guarantee you that you'll be satisfied with the outcome.

And the outcome is exactly what you've done before spraying!

Now in regards to the body shops - they can do a good job But they spray on massive even not as curvy Metal pieces so even if they do a great job on the paint then they'll definitely leave a 'mark' when they apply the sealer. I've seen it happening many times. Wet sand wet sand, another 2 coats, wet sand wet sand and buff.
I decided to use a BMW paint on my guitar and a german sealer. Remember, those chemicals are designed to go on metal, I am sure you get the point

But hey keep your head up, I am sure you'll succeed and also know that there's a lot of fellas following your thread so you'll be surrounded but 'tips'. Good luck I hope it helped!

I am a little confused what did you mean by not sealing the paint job?

**Morbid** · 11-03-2009, 10:45 AM

Thanks for the tips and advice Kal, though I must admit, I'm not looking forward to the idea of sanding past the remaining nitrocelly. I've sanded for hours at a time, throughout the entire flat surface (pick a side, lol)only to get past a small spot. We'll see what the paint guys have to say though. I don't want to move any further until I have their backing also.

As far as sealing for the guitar, I thought you meant a sealing for the body, not the paint. In which case, I'm not settled on anything...the glossier the better! If I could seal it in glass I'd probably try, lol.

**ScoobySteve** · 11-03-2009, 11:16 AM

Morbid! You liveeeee!!

Thanks for the updates man. Keep us posted, this is one of the threads I first got into when I joined these Knuckleheads.

**fbecir** · 11-03-2009, 11:20 AM

Morbid is back !!!!!

Nice to see you back with us !

**jamminjim** · 11-03-2009, 11:34 AM

Isn't there any chemical paint stripper that would do the job on wood?

**e.mate** · 11-04-2009, 01:19 AM

Follow the story you must.... May the Morbid be with you

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**mr.b** · 11-04-2009, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by Morbid

No fear emate, won't leave till this is done. I'm more eager than any of you could possibly imagine!! I want my guitar!!

Kal, haven't decided on a sealer. Not sure I'll need it. I'm assuming you mean a substitute for the nitrocelly? In which case, most of it still remains on the body...I've only sanded through on a few parts. That's part of my problem though...there's no one here that specializes in guitar paint jobs. My best bet at this point, assuming the contact doesn't work out, is an Autobody shop. At least with that I can rest at ease knowing that the autobody paint is sturdy stuff.

Dude. There must be a local motorbike can sprayer about? i got artwork sprayed on a guitar a few years ago and the guy that did it specialises in painting motorbike helmets, cans etc. he did a fabulous job. Try hunting one out in your area.

**Kaloyan** · 11-04-2009, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by Morbid

Thanks for the tips and advice Kal, though I must admit, I'm not looking forward to the idea of sanding past the remaining nitrocelly. I've sanded for hours at a time, throughout the entire flat surface (pick a side, lol)only to get past a small spot. We'll see what the paint guys have to say though. I don't want to move any further until I have their backing also.

As far as sealing for the guitar, I thought you meant a sealing for the body, not the paint. In which case, I'm not settled on anything...the glossier the better! If I could seal it in glass I'd probably try, lol.

lmao. Sanding won't do anything to it. I have called several highly 'classified' places to ask for a chemical that simply and plainly removes the finish off the body and they told me that I need a level 3 hazmat license and that this type of poly finish is used on the boats!!!!!! What the hell? Either way. Heat gun and a chizel and a lot of patience would remove it and then you could use the beautiful Florida sun (except when is super humid) to cure the wood even better. The high gloss would be a polyer of some kind and a master buffer. Keep us updated and thank you for taking some of my experience in consideration.