Ernie Ball Music Man JP6 Restoration Project!

[Morbid]

I don't seem to be able to find him in the Member's List.
Am I missing something?

[leftyguitarblue]

I don't seem to be able to find him in the Member's List.
Am I missing something?

His avatar is wonderdog, his name is "GHWelles"

[Spudmurphy]

OOOOPS! -Sorry -well done lefty.

[bkrumme]

I'm kinda with jamminjim on this one...

Wasn't the guitar sold to you as a project guitar? If that's the case, I would EXPECT there to be some inconsistencies with some or all of the parts.

I totally understand that it's frustrating to run into one snag after another. What do you think happens when you buy a new home? It doesn't matter if it's a BRAND NEW house, or one that's 80 years old. You will ALWAYS find something that needs fixed. It's inevitable.

As far as the neck thing, kudos for taking ownership of a mistake. I just now started buying bolt on guitars again. I was a Neck-Thru kinda guy before I discovered EBMM. So I can't say whether it's normal for there to be extra holes. If it's hidden when the neck is attached to the body, then I wouldn't worry about it.

[jamminjim]

*idea*

if the extra and visible holes on the back of the headstock are a real bother, and you're going to paint over the beautiful wood headstock anyway, then why not fill the holes, sand her down and paint the headstock front and back?

Cheers

[Spudmurphy]

You already know about the two extra holes - like on mine, well 3 if you count the one underneath the label.


The body also has extra holes - I think its where EB clamp on a temporary neck for spraying purposes - or maybe it's how "Ursula" the buffing robot keeps a grip on things?

[Dead-Eye]

I'm kinda with jamminjim on this one...

Wasn't the guitar sold to you as a project guitar? If that's the case, I would EXPECT there to be some inconsistencies with some or all of the parts.

If it says "project guitar" in the description I'm with you. But if the statement is explicitly "project guitar, but there's nothing missing", I don't think there's anything wrong with expecting that to be true.

On the other hand, with any project you probably have to factor in a bit of money for unexpected expenses.

[buckethead777]

^^^^^ +1
Spot on Dizzy

[Sticky1973]

I'm pretty much out of daylight today, but body work starts THIS WEEK.

And I for one can't wait.

Ye know Morbid, I look forward to your updates in this thread not only for the axe progress, but because I can really appreciate the time you take to construct well worded and detailed posts; more power to ya fella

.... when you consider the poor bugger is only a young'un earning $8/hr, it puts things in perspective....

+1 on that, right there.

[Spudmurphy]

Morbid - I don't wish this post to sound like the Morbid / Spud self appreciation society, but I have to say that you have written very eloquently on the matter. I think you have addressed the issues raised in the recent posts in an impeccable and adult manner, and I for one will be pleased to see you hanging around on this forum for years to come. The experience you are gaining from this project will be invaluable to other people who raise questions on their JP in future years.
At the beginning of the week you were really down and I hope that you have had an "injection" of enthusiasm.
I've said this before - look at the hits you are having - I know I posted a couple of threads on my JP restoration project - but this one is going the extra mile.
Keep going and if ya want advice/support/vent some venom - then e mail me
spud at web-links dot net.
- now get filing/sanding/soldering/painting/polishing/set up - playing!!
edit - yeah you gotta put a message on the back of the neck plate - I think you oughta get it engraved not sharpied.
... the RC on the neck in red pen is the person who inspected it I guess.

My guitar would not have crossed the pond if it wasn't for the efforts made by knucklehead Fsmith - who I am indebted to. I'm a huge AL fan - but I love this guitar too!!

[GHWelles]

Just a thought - give Wonderdog a pm - he's BP's Legal Beagle and I'm sure would be able to help.

It's not as if you a masquerading a wannabe guitar as an EB or selling illegal merchandise that purports to be EB. I really don't know the legal implications of it - Wonderdog will.

Technically you should not copy the logo, that is copyright infringment. I think it is OK to put a genuine logo on a re-finished EBMM, however, because as Spudmurphy points out it is still a real EBMM, just a re-finished one. The problem is how do you get one?

[Spudmurphy]

I I had so much money wrapped up in a 67 RS Camaro restore once that I couldn't sleep or eat for days. My stomach was in knots with worry over the outcome. Well, it came out alright and I lost my ass a little in cost overruns.
~Jim

Ouch - I put too much money into an Auto project many years ago and will not do so again!!

Well I have to say a good reply and I see all sides of the argument/debate.

Anyway - let's all look forward to the next episode of "JP Resurrection"

[mesavox]

Technically you should not copy the logo, that is copyright infringment. I think it is OK to put a genuine logo on a re-finished EBMM, however, because as Spudmurphy points out it is still a real EBMM, just a re-finished one. The problem is how do you get one?

Not arguing in anyway... just asking if the way I've always understood the law is correct or if I've missunderstood the language.

I've always thought that the above was the case unless you get explicit permission. Obviously he doesn't have that at this point, but I thought, as the case with a particular rock band's shows... you can film them as long as you give management a copy of the video... and the venue allows cameras in the door. Technically, it is copyright infringement, but management and band have given permission with certain terms.

Perhaps the simplest explanation is if no one wants to prosecute, you have a kind of permission? LOL

I don't know... legalese is certainly not English. LOL

[candid_x]

Doesn't hurt to ask.

[Big Poppa]

My problem with the logo is that it makes it like it came from the factory and I really cant have a homemade restoration that down the line may reflect on us. Sorry.