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Magnetic/piezo blend pedal!

This is a discussion on Magnetic/piezo blend pedal! within the Music Man Guitars forums, part of the Gear Talk category; Thanks Darren - it was rushed - I'll check out what happens in the middle of the pedals travel and ...

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    Thanks Darren - it was rushed - I'll check out what happens in the middle of the pedals travel and report back - I'll do another video clip explaining it

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    Quote Originally Posted by darren View Post
    Just watched the video... nice demo! But the still-unanswered question is, "What happens in the middle of the pedal's travel?"

    It appears to me, from your demo and a Blues Saraceno demo i also just watched, that the volume swell/cut happens over the pedal's full travel, and that in the middle, neither signal is at 100% volume.

    It's *almost* what i would want it to do, but not quite, which at least gives me some validation that i haven't re-invented the wheel.
    Yes Darren you are right - the EB stereo pedal works in a different way.

    With the stereo pedal in Pan mode the piezo volume for example will decrease as the pedal is pressed towards mid way and then the Mags come in.
    The piezo will be at 100% at the beginning of the sweep will then fade off bringing the mags into life and then the mags will be at 100% fully depressed.
    So I guess it will do what you want but in a different way?
    I think I'm beginning to get it but don't ask me to sit an "exam" !! - but to specifically answer your question
    It appears to me, from your demo and a Blues Saraceno demo i also just watched, that the volume swell/cut happens over the pedal's full travel, and that in the middle, neither signal is at 100% volume.
    yes you are correct

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    Yeah, that actually doesn't do what i want.

    With my pedal, if you start in the heel position, you have 100% piezo.

    Pushing the pedal forward, the piezo stays at 100% and the magnetics swell from zero to 100% in the first half of the pedal's travel.

    In the middle position, both signals are at 100%.

    Keep pushing it forward and the magnetics stay at 100% and the piezos fade from 100% to zero in the second half of the pedal's travel.
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    Got it!

    Well nice pedal you have there and hats off to you on sorting it out.

    I hope I have put your mind at rest.

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    I really appreciate you taking the time to do that demo, Spud. Thanks! It did help a lot.
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    piezo rig: Tech21 Acoustic DI -> PA
    custom blend pedal to switch/blend magnetic and piezo signals


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    Good job indeed.. And I take it that you must be quite knowledable in ECs .. m pretty much next to nothing ..LOL.. I would say thats a pretty neat thing you got there.. I am sure there a lotta guys out there who need it ,specially in a live env. WTG!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by darren View Post
    I really appreciate you taking the time to do that demo, Spud. Thanks! It did help a lot.
    Oh man anytime - you put a lot of thought into that and it was interesting getting to the bottom of it - nice thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudmurphy View Post
    .... nice thread!
    Totally.

    Followed this thread all day.

    Good stuff

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    And here's me with my [yet to be] home made 'Mag/Pie' box... Based on the EBMM Splitter that you can't get in the UK, painted black and white - like a MagPie!

    Hmmm.
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    Neat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by applemacintosh View Post
    And here's me with my [yet to be] home made 'Mag/Pie' box... Based on the EBMM Splitter that you can't get in the UK, painted black and white - like a MagPie!

    Hmmm.
    I hope it's as good as the home made box posted on here a few months ago - the graphics were awesome - showed some cartoon chick with a tattoo going up her back.

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    I did see that and it is awesome! Don't know if I'll be that flamboyant yet... Gotta get round to building it yet!
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    IMHO, anything that can get rid of a knob on the guitar and do the same thing is a great idea. NOW, if they only made a Hardtail Axis with piezo, coupled with this pedal, Tim O and myself would order them tomorrow.

    Although, I'd still like to see the hardtail axis revived, even without a piezo.
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    I made a splitter box as well. But i love this blend/pan... it's exactly what i needed.
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    piezos + matching headstock [DOB: 13.06.2005]
    mods: chrome dome knobs, Tremol-No™, Schaller strap locks

    magnetic rig: Modified TS7, TC G-System, Mesa/Boogie F-30 head into dual Mesa Thiele 1x12 cabs
    piezo rig: Tech21 Acoustic DI -> PA
    custom blend pedal to switch/blend magnetic and piezo signals


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    I think there is a market for your pedal, albeit a small one, if you decide to produce more.
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