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Re-Finishing Axis SS

This is a discussion on Re-Finishing Axis SS within the Music Man Guitars forums, part of the Gear Talk category; Originally Posted by kimonostereo Yep that's the right way to do it but it's not as easy as it sounds. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimonostereo View Post
    Yep that's the right way to do it but it's not as easy as it sounds. Maybe you'll get lucky on your first try though.

    Binding was the hardest part. Scraping and glueing it was very hard. I give props to all those hard workers at EBMM for doing such a good job. I still don't know how they get it so seamless.
    If I recall correctly from the factory tour in 2005 they actually pour the binding around the body... It's not a strip of material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsmith View Post
    If I recall correctly from the factory tour in 2005 they actually pour the binding around the body... It's not a strip of material.

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    REALLY???????.....Thats cool....and to think all this time i have been bending and gluing and taping ...hahahaha .....anyone got any confirmation on this ?...or a pic...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fsmith View Post
    If I recall correctly from the factory tour in 2005 they actually pour the binding around the body... It's not a strip of material.

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    Whoa. If this is true then no wonder they can get such precision on the binding! No matter how hard I tried I could never get the binding to be as seamless as a EBMM Axis.

    I wonder if anyone can confirm this with a photo?
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    No Before Pictures

    Man, that was a real screw up on my part, should have took pictures before I started. I'll look but I don't think I have any. If you haven't seen one of these its a heavy metal flake or metalic black. Not suttle at all, lots of sparkle. Everyone said it looked really cool when the camera hit it in the lights, showed up well on the big screen but it just wasn't me as pretty as it was. Besides, after "the incident" it all started falling off so there was my opportunity to make the change.

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    actually I'm very familiar with Black Sparkle, I just wanted to see the damage before treatement. What you descripe is pretty unsual to me an I was curious to see the guitar

    That being said I'd love to see a a nice transparent pink and a back in black sparkle I think you will have then something really "hot"
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    The Damage

    OK, I admit the pink/black/sparkle would be hot but I do play in church The damage on the top was as chip of paint knocked off from it getting hit on the binding. The chip was about the size of two postage stamps. I put some gaff tape on it just so I could go play it. When I pulled the gaff tape off more paint came off. In the pictures you see a clean top, I have not sanded the top yet, that was just blowing the paint off with a razor blade quickly. I have wondered if it should have come off that easy. None of the paint on the back came off like that, it was stuck good. The paint on the top nearly jumped off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylem View Post
    OK, I admit the pink/black/sparkle would be hot but I do play in church The damage on the top was as chip of paint knocked off from it getting hit on the binding. The chip was about the size of two postage stamps. I put some gaff tape on it just so I could go play it. When I pulled the gaff tape off more paint came off. In the pictures you see a clean top, I have not sanded the top yet, that was just blowing the paint off with a razor blade quickly. I have wondered if it should have come off that easy. None of the paint on the back came off like that, it was stuck good. The paint on the top nearly jumped off.
    Ok for god sake you can go with another finish

    as for the paint issue it's really the first time for me to hear the paint peeling off this way. Keep us posted !!!

    I remember few years ago on this forum most of the die hard knucleheads were against any mod on their precious guitars. Now it happens more and more and it's good to experiment to find your sound

    or maybe that's just because there are more users on this forum
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    Modifications

    I'm not one to cut on a brand new guitar but again, this one was a rescue when I got it, it was past the point of even a player nevermind "the incident with my dog", thankfully the neck is was still ok. But I do think if you put up a collectable that's cool but I prefer player guitars. The guitar is an "instrument" to make music, we do a lot in search of tone. Although I do wish someone hadn't repainted my 58 strat back in the 60's before I got it. It would be much more valuable now. In light of its diminished value I'm not afraid to take it out and play it. This axis ss will be like that, just go play it. Maybe someday I can get a nice bfr to put away and look at Nah, I'd play it too...

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    man.. im squinting from looking at those pic's, hope it all works out with the re-finishing.

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    As I recall, a heat gun worked well in removing the poly finish.

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    Good Luck! It is going to be a beauty!
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    Got it painted

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    Re-Finishing Axis SS-img_0401.jpgJust finished in the middle of the night with the laquer clear, I learned a lot, a few things I would do different, but I'm happy for my first try. Now waiting for it to dry a few days so I can sand and buff it.

    After sanding all the paint off and fully test fitting the ghoast bridge acoustic setup (which is the best I've heard) I pulled it apart and started the refinish. I stained the top black, when dry sanded most the black off leaving the highlights, then shot on red die mixed in alcohol, light in the middle, more coats and darker to the outer edge. Then a black burst at the edge (I'll do better next time), then some metalic clear over the black edge to match the factory black metalic headstock, then clear. Can't wait to buff this thing.

    Hope to have a picture of the finished guitar late in the week.

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    wooow very nice indeed

    thanks for sharing
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    Great job!

    Great job Kyle, especially for a first try. Thanks a bunch for sharing. I'd like to hear what you think of the acoustic setup once you've had a chance to really try it.

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    The trans red burst top is exellent!

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