I need a diagram for my musicman SUB

[jim_messina]

Hello, i need the diagram for my sub please! ...it has the tipical H-H combination like John Petrucci with the inner coils at the middle position, but is not the same switch of the JP... this is my switch:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...fr1846/1-7.jpg

Exactly the same...please does anyone have the diagram???

Bye.

[jamminjim]

Here ya go

GuitarElectronics.com Guitar Wiring Diagram 2 Humbuckers/3-Way Toggle Switch/1 Volume/0Tone/000

[jim_messina]

Is not the same sw, that's a les paul style switch...that switch doesn't give you the inner coils at the middle position ...thanks anyway

My guitar!! :

Ernie Ball Forums - jamminjim's Album: My Music Men - Picture

[GWDavis28]

Not sure of the sub wiring is here, but there maybe another model that is wired the same.

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Glenn |B)

[A.J.]

Jim

Email me: aj@ernieball.com

I will send you the diagram you need.

[GWDavis28]

AJ, can they be added to the diagram site??

Glenn |B)

[A.J.]

Glenn, I'll talk to Chewie about it. That's a really old website that we didn't plan to update, but we'll see.

[jamminjim]

Jim - that's pretty funny man. I just looked at one of my stock Sub 1 loaded guards and it is wired exactly like the schematic I sent you. And the switch looks exactly like the switch in your picture.

Has someone wired yours differently? On my Sub 1's the red and white wires of each humbucker are tied together and heat shrinked. AFAIK the stock Sub 1 is wired just like a Les Paul, sans the additional vol and tone pots.

Enlighten me.

Glen, those are the functional diagrams on that old site - they help to learn the switching functions but are not schematics and are not very helpful for troubleshooting wiring or wiring problems.

~Jim

[Jack FFR1846]

Stock, the middle position is both hums. Not 2 coils from different hums. Each pair of wires that would be used to coil split (or series) are brought to the switch area and tied together, but connected to nothing....making them only hums, but the wires are there to make changes pretty easily.

[jim_messina]

Ok i understand now, i'm mistaken...when i bought this guitar, it was wired like a JP with the inner pickups and hum cancelling in the middle position, i didn't know that the stock SUB is wired like a Les Paul...thanks Jim... Anyway, this is my first musicman and i don't know how to wire this switch... can you help me?

[e.mate]

What about collecting all the diagrams here on the forum? We could create an area only for these. I guess many brothers here are interested in the basic wirings of the BALLS

Where's a mod when you need one

The dark side of the moon
The silence of the lambs
and now....
The wirings of the BALLS

[jamminjim]

Jim here's a pic of my Sub switch. The white and red wires are soldered together and taped off (not attached to anything). It's important to note that the little pcb on top of the switch is not a part of the switch, the actual switch is underneath it and the switch terminals are sticking up through the pcb terminal holes and soldered. The three terminals on-on-on of the switch are from top to bottom in my pic. You actually only have to use one row of 3 terminals on the switch the farthest right vertical row of three terminals on the pcb with solder on them are the output connections The wires are connected from underneath. Take the green wire from your neck hummer and attach it to the top output terminal (as viewed in the pic) the white out put wire goes to the center terminal and then to the volume pot, the bridge hummer green wire attaches to the bottom output terminal on the pcb.
Don't worry about the unsoldered terminal holes in the pcb in my pic or on your switch. they aren't needed.
The black wires are soldered to the back of the vol pot.
It's that simple.

[jim_messina]

Thanks Jim, i did the wiring and everything is ok now =)