The JP Is By Far My Favorite Model but Which EBMM Should I Go For in a Stoptail?

**Josh O** · 11-15-2009, 11:02 AM

The JP model is for me by far and I'm on #4 but at some point I'd like a stop tail that I can use for different tunings. I used to have a JP7 that I could get away with for heavy detunes but I'd rather have a stoptail six. Which model would be the closest to the JP neckwise with at least a H/H config? I'm thinking maybe a Sillhouette assuming you can get it in a H/H or H/S/H config or maybe an Axis Super Sport? Maybe even a Sterling model? Or perhaps I should go after a used Sub 1? Of course that Dargie 2 Gold Roller that Pete D has is SWEET but that model is most likely is outta my wallet's range!

Thoughts?

**Crimson Sunrise** · 11-15-2009, 11:13 AM

I vote for an Axis Super Sport!

**73h Nils** · 11-15-2009, 11:40 AM

Probably an ASS. Highest output pickups will make those low tunings just cut.

**leftyguitarblue** · 11-15-2009, 11:51 AM

you could just block out a JP trem with a tremol-no or something similar.

**brasco68** · 11-15-2009, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by 73h nils

probably an ass. Highest output pickups will make those low tunings just cut.

+1

**threeminutesboy** · 11-15-2009, 01:38 PM

depends on the neck and the number of frets you are looking for

22 frets I would say a morse Y2D or Axis SS or even better a 25th or Al HH but you will have to wait for it to be released first

24 frets silo 20th, regular one or gold roller

but the morse could the best in terms of neck shape

**Sweat** · 11-15-2009, 01:45 PM

Well this is kinda easy for what you want it for, the most under rated ,under utilized guitar in the EBMM aresenal, A Silo Bass Guitar, has every thing you have asked for, plus they are cool as hell to play, headstock has a killer one for sale at a great price.

**Kaloyan** · 11-15-2009, 02:24 PM

I'd go with the 25th anniversary. Period

**ScoobySteve** · 11-15-2009, 06:04 PM

I'm going with the 25th hardtail. Seriously, its cleans are beautiful, but in serial mode that axe can melt your face off.

And how come the SM Y2D w/ Tune-O-Matic gets no love? An absolutely stunning stop tail that is. The neck profile will be different though.

**browndog** · 11-15-2009, 06:30 PM

I’m with the majority. Either an ASS or a 25th.

**agt** · 11-15-2009, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by leftyguitarblue

you could just block out a JP trem with a tremol-no or something similar.

I agree. I have two hardwood dowel slices in mine, one on either side of the trem block. The JP neck is unique, so if that is important, a blocked trem may suit your needs.

The ASS is a great alternative, but the neck is definitely different. Ditto the Silo or 25th/Reflex. All great choices, but different.

Also consider the Morse model for a fixed bridge. IMHO, the neck on the Morse is closest to the JP within the EBMM family in that it has a flatter radius (12" vs 10"; the JP is 15") and is not as thick front-to-back. My Morse is from the mid 90s, I've read mention that the neck may have slightly changed since.

Good luck in your quest.

**Slingy** · 11-15-2009, 10:27 PM

How low do you want to tune? If you want to go real low like A or B standard then go for a Silo Bass Guitar! I havn't even played one, but it is no secret that you need a longer scale length for ultra low tunings, or the sound gets muddy with no sustain. Have you heard Panic Attack on the Octavarium album? That is the Silo Bass Guitar.

**Ripper** · 11-15-2009, 11:22 PM

The verdict is quite clear:

The 25th with a hardtail. Maple neck/board would be a killer combo. Go check out Roburado's.

**Dante** · 11-16-2009, 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by Ripper

The verdict is quite clear:

The 25th with a hardtail. Maple neck/board would be a killer combo. Go check out Roburado's.

for low tunings? don't be silly.

i own a Y2D tuned to B with EMGs. that's what get's my vote.

**e.mate** · 11-16-2009, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Josh O

The JP model is for me by far and I'm on #4 but at some point I'd like a stop tail that I can use for different tunings. I used to have a JP7 that I could get away with for heavy detunes but I'd rather have a stoptail six. Which model would be the closest to the JP neckwise with at least a H/H config? I'm thinking maybe a Sillhouette assuming you can get it in a H/H or H/S/H config or maybe an Axis Super Sport? Maybe even a Sterling model? Or perhaps I should go after a used Sub 1? Of course that Dargie 2 Gold Roller that Pete D has is SWEET but that model is most likely is outta my wallet's range!

Thoughts?

Out of the box, I would say maybe ASS comes running up soundwise. But of course, that depends on how much you want to spend for this type of alternative...

Actually, I would try to an used SUB and add one of the JP PUs (D-Sonic, CrunchLab..whatever you prefer)...can't get any closer in sound, look and feel. I know quite bunch of JP players that own a SUB as backup or stoptail addition to their setup...and they are more than happy with it