Newbie here with a question for the SUB1 owners...or anyone for that matter!

[jamminjim]

Hey John C - I looked at the Gotoh magnums and the stock Sub 1 lockers don't seem to be exactly like them. The Sub 1's lockers posts are taller and the mounting nut seems different. Maybe an older, or a previous style Gotoh magnum was like that, I don't know. They may have been made by Gotoh, but I tend to think they were sourced from a different company; could be wrong though.

Anyway, the Sub 1 locking tuner has the twin posts underneath, like the Fe$der schaller, that keep the tuner aligned on the headstock and the posts are hidden when the tuner is mounted. A EBMM schaller will cover up the holes, but you have to drill an additional one to mount, as mentioned.

I am curious to know if a Fe$der schaller locking tuner would fit? But I may never know, as I don't have any Fe$der guitars. I'm sure some knucks do though, and could do the research. Hint Hint...

Anyway, I want lockers on my subs to make it easier/quicker to work on the guitar, to take the strings off temporarily to get to the innards easily, then put the strings back on. Locking tuners make this process one heck of alot simpler. I think that's the one thing that hasn't been mentioned. Now some would say that isn't a necessity, however for what I do with my subs, it almost would be considered so. Tuning stability isn't the issue in this case.

[John C]

Hey John C - I looked at the Gotoh magnums and the stock Sub 1 lockers don't seem to be exactly like them. The Sub 1's lockers posts are taller and the mounting nut seems different. Maybe an older, or a previous style Gotoh magnum was like that, I don't know. They may have been made by Gotoh, but I tend to think they were sourced from a different company; could be wrong though.

Anyway, the Sub 1 locking tuner has the twin posts underneath, like the Fe$der schaller, that keep the tuner aligned on the headstock and the posts are hidden when the tuner is mounted. A EBMM schaller will cover up the holes, but you have to drill an additional one to mount, as mentioned.

I am curious to know if a Fe$der schaller locking tuner would fit? But I may never know, as I don't have any Fe$der guitars. I'm sure some knucks do though, and could do the research. Hint Hint...

Anyway, I want lockers on my subs to make it easier/quicker to work on the guitar, to take the strings off temporarily to get to the innards easily, then put the strings back on. Locking tuners make this process one heck of alot simpler. I think that's the one thing that hasn't been mentioned. Now some would say that isn't a necessity, however for what I do with my subs, it almost would be considered so. Tuning stability isn't the issue in this case.

Jim - these were an earlier version of the Gotohs - instead of being "self-locking" like the current ones the top half screws on and off (kind of like the thumbscrew on the top of a current PRS tuner). I had seen these tuners on the Ibanez Starfield guitars back in the early 1990s. Since this was an earlier style you could be right that they were sourced somewhere other than Gotoh (maybe the Korean company that made the pickups for the SUB 1).

I'm not sure about the Fender/Schallers; seems like they have a different "footprint" than the SUB tuners but if the posts are in the same spot they could work.

[wgmontgomery]

Do you have to use 4x2 tuners or can you make 6 inline work?