Looking to replace my Fender Cybertwin SE. It's way too complicated for my simple mind. I'm looking very hard at the Egnater Renegade 2x12 combo. Any thoughts?
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Looking to replace my Fender Cybertwin SE. It's way too complicated for my simple mind. I'm looking very hard at the Egnater Renegade 2x12 combo. Any thoughts?
25th Anniversary,Venetian Red Flame,Maple neck,G47629,(9/30/09)
Axis Supersport BFR,Tobacco Burst,All Rosewood neck,G47057,(3/05/09)
Axis Tribute 20th, Purple Quilt, Killer Birdseye Maple, G54353(8/17/11)
EVH Red Quilt, Birdseye Maple, 86933(8/16/95)
Axis Supersport BFR, Emerald Burst, Maple neck, Hard tail, G42861(1/12/09)
How about a Hughes & Kettner, Kev.
Loving mine.
Well as for me...I'm currently using Randall MTS ALL tube amps. They sound amazing & alot of their design comes from Bruce Egnater.
Killer tone & they're affordable too !
1999 EBMM Silhouette Special 3 Tone Sunburst S-S-S
What're you looking for in an amp? That helps
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25th Anniversary,Venetian Red Flame,Maple neck,G47629,(9/30/09)
Axis Supersport BFR,Tobacco Burst,All Rosewood neck,G47057,(3/05/09)
Axis Tribute 20th, Purple Quilt, Killer Birdseye Maple, G54353(8/17/11)
EVH Red Quilt, Birdseye Maple, 86933(8/16/95)
Axis Supersport BFR, Emerald Burst, Maple neck, Hard tail, G42861(1/12/09)
OK Kevin now thats out the other factor is price range; how much you looking to spend. Your going to get a bunch of different answers and opinions. Everyone has their favorites.
With that said, in the mid price range the new H&K Tubemeister is awesome especially for what you seek, I have one and Browndog has one.
In the lower range the Marshll Class 5 is sweet, cleans lack a little though but in a lower range you are going to have limitations.
If you want more expensive I love my set up of a PRS Sweet 16 Head with a Bogner 2X12 cab loaded with celestions. I get everything you want with this set up, but it is quite expensive.
Good luck and let us know what you decide on.
On a plus side go to GC and start trying amps!!
Mesa Mini Rec's are very very good, not horribly expensive and a joy to carry around!!!!
Mike Keller
EBMM Silhouette Special (Candy Red)
EBMM JP6 (Graphite Pearl)
EBMM Luke w/Piezo (Blue Pearl)
EBMM JPX
EBMM Axis Super Sport (Pacific Blue Burst)
EBMM 25th Anniversary
EBMM SM Y2D
Mesa/Boogie Electra Dyne Head / Recto 2x12 Vertical Cab
Mesa/Boogie Mini Rectifier
Mesa/Boogie Lonestar Combo
Xotic/Timmy/Wampler/RetroSonic/TC Electronic/Boss FX
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I replaced my F****r Cyber Twin with a Mesa Mark V and 2x12 Three Quarterback for pure tube tone; the combo would have worked for me as well and would include casters. Most of the reviews lean on this amp as rock style amp but don't be fooled. Channel 1 = Clean will tonnes of head room in the 45 watt and expecially in the 90 watt mode. Setup channel 1 in 30 seconds using 30% tube reverb and the rotary EQ. Channel 2 = Blues heaven. Setup channel 2 in 30 seconds using 20% tube reverb and the rotary EQ. Channel 3 = Rocking Blues to Burning Lead. Channel 3 was a little trickier using the EQ sliders because there is so much tonal control in the 5 sliders. Best to get channel 3 in the tone zone without the EQ, level the EQ then adjust slightly. This set up covers all styles and with the 10 watt settings, the reduced power switch and the output level, it can be tamed for the bedroom.
Last edited by CHill; 01-29-2012 at 10:03 AM.
2009: JP6 w/BFR Rosewood Neck - Ice Blue
2010: Silhouette HSH w/Matching Neck - Black
2010: Ernie Ball WAH - Black/Green and smooth like silk
2011: Sterling H w/Matching Neck - Black
X2 on the Mini Rec - or the Transatlantic, which I ended up buying. Extremely versatile and expressive amp.
-Matt
Mike Keller
EBMM Silhouette Special (Candy Red)
EBMM JP6 (Graphite Pearl)
EBMM Luke w/Piezo (Blue Pearl)
EBMM JPX
EBMM Axis Super Sport (Pacific Blue Burst)
EBMM 25th Anniversary
EBMM SM Y2D
Mesa/Boogie Electra Dyne Head / Recto 2x12 Vertical Cab
Mesa/Boogie Mini Rectifier
Mesa/Boogie Lonestar Combo
Xotic/Timmy/Wampler/RetroSonic/TC Electronic/Boss FX
www.theseguyslive.com
I have a Renegade head and it's awesome. Highly recommended. Gratuitous shot enclosed :-) I find 2 x 12's a pain to lug around, much prefer head and cab. I also have a Fryette Memphis 1 x 12 that excels at what you're looking for.
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Man, that's a tough order to fill. To be very perfectly honest, I have never tried an amp (i have tried, oh so many) where I had access to killer cleans, blues and beefy crunch all in one. I always ended up using two separate amps (which is probably not what you're looking to do) or gone high end modeling. (But you're not looking for super features)
What, I would end up doing in this case, and to help save on money and a little back pain, would be to get an extremely sound and pristine clean amp, and run pedals for the other two tones. (What's your budget by the way?)
1. Two-Rock Studio Pro 22/35. I know its Two Rock, but these are on the much more affordable side, still very expensive, but a wonderfully transparent and organic clean amp. You could get a Twin reissue, or locate a vintage one, or scour for a super reverb, any food old black/silver face, or any other excellent clean amp.
2. H.A. Zendrive or Xotic BB for blues tones.
3. Suhr Riot - Beefy crunch.
That's what I'd do. personally.
EBMM 25th Anniversary - Venetian Redburst - "Valentine" , Flamed, Rosewood FB, Hardtail. Born 08/05/09
EBMM MIAC Silhouette Special - Vintage White - "Ivory", Maple FB, Vintage Trem. Born 09/18/01
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I'm leaning towards davetcan's rig. I always liked combos for the simple fact that I don't have to lug 2 separate pieces. The renegade combo supposedly has removable casters. I'll look hard at the mini rec. also. One thing for sure, I'll take my 25th to GC when I test drive them. Thanks to all for the advice.
25th Anniversary,Venetian Red Flame,Maple neck,G47629,(9/30/09)
Axis Supersport BFR,Tobacco Burst,All Rosewood neck,G47057,(3/05/09)
Axis Tribute 20th, Purple Quilt, Killer Birdseye Maple, G54353(8/17/11)
EVH Red Quilt, Birdseye Maple, 86933(8/16/95)
Axis Supersport BFR, Emerald Burst, Maple neck, Hard tail, G42861(1/12/09)
Check out the Orange Tiny Terror. It only has one channel but you might be able to get a few cool sounds with the series/parallel switch and the volume knob. I also tried an Egnater Tweaker recently and it had some cool sounds. Both are available in combo format.
btw I still have an OCD and a Klon clone on my board to juice things up when needed. The Renegade gives you clean and dirty + footswitchable boost on both channels + footswitchable effects loop and reverb. You also have the option of having reverb, boost, and effects available to one or both channels. Extremely versatile rig.
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