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EBMM EVH ~ Good Article, Interesting Facts

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    Wolf deezz....I am just not gonna buy what that dude is trying to sell. I have played a few of the Wolfie models and, well, Eddie burned his bridge. I just don't find them to be "all that" personally. Of course, I love the Axis models and may buy one in the near future.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hambucker
    "Don't take those strings all the way off! - When changing the strings always leave one string with tension. Ernie Ball says you can very easily ruin the neck and your guitar by releasing the string tension without loosening the truss rod. It is a very bad idea to ship the guitar with loose strings or without strings unless you had adjusted the truss rod. The tech I spoke with this about at EB says he has seen guitars where the neck and/or body are badly damaged because of this."

    Is this true? I doesn't sound right. I've worked in music shops, shipped them and we always shipped them detuned, enough to support the neck but not tuned to pitch. I have also never heard of taking strings off haming the neck. Maybe if you cut them all at once, but I have changed many a guitar string and never hurt one by removing strings. This guy sounds really biased and misinformed.
    About the string thing. I have been told that when re-stringing a bolt on neck guitar, not to re-string it from the big E down, because it can put more tension on one side of the neck than is desired, and could over time do harm. I have a 74 Gibson S-1 Marauder and an Epiphone LP Special II with a bolt on necks. When I re-string them I start with the small e and the go to the big E and work my way in. I used to go from big E down before I heard this and never noticed an problems, but just to be safe I changed the way I re-string all my guitars bolt on or set necks. I have also been told that stringing from the big E down can damage the nut, mess up the intonation and may over time cause you to need a truss rod collar adjustment. Even though I respect the information given to me (by several guitar techs over the 22 years I have been playing) I never put much stock in them being the gosphel. I just thought it made a little since so why not be on the safe side. Feel free to say I have been misinformed or de-bunk this info. Thats why I posted it, I want to hear your opinions and expertese about re-stringing from big E down.


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    I don't claim to be some kind of expert, but,,,

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    [QUOTE=. Thats why I posted it, I want to hear your opinions and expertese about re-stringing from big E down.


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    IMHO...nonsense

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    [QUOTE=jongitarz]
    Quote Originally Posted by . Thats why I posted it, I want to hear your opinions and expertese about re-stringing from big E down.


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    IMHO...nonsense
    Thanks for your reply. Like I said, I never put much stock in it, but figured it couldn't hurt. I used to be a stagehand at a national room here in Fort Worth as well as being in and around countless amature bands and have talked to alot of guitar techs over the years as well as seasoned players. They all seem to have a bit of a different spin on re-stringing, tuning,cleaning and polishing and on and on and on. I always try to weed through the BS and form opinions on common scence and my own experience. And more times than not I take the side of caution, but the re-stringing thing is about as cautious as I let it get. You wouldn't belive some of the quirky stuff I have heard. Everything from de-tuning every time you put it down to keeping your cased guitar at a perfect 45 degree angle during transport, and it just goes on and on.


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    If you really want to keep equal tension on the neck, wouldn't you go high E, low E, B, A, etc? I think I'll go with Jon. I don't see how I can argue with an EB tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hambucker
    If you really want to keep equal tension on the neck, wouldn't you go high E, low E, B, A, etc? I think I'll go with Jon. I don't see how I can argue with an EB tech.

    That's how I do it anyway, hehehehehe. Just cause I feel more organized that way.

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    Do you remember a time before the internet when we would play guitars

    +1 on the obsessive compulsive... I think the trick is to try not to give a ****
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    Quote Originally Posted by hambucker
    If you really want to keep equal tension on the neck, wouldn't you go high E, low E, B, A, etc? I think I'll go with Jon. I don't see how I can argue with an EB tech.
    Yes, thats what I meant, you explained it better than I did. And I am not arguing with Jon or anybody else, just wanted to hear what his take on it was. I also ran this topic over at the unofficial Epi site http://epifriends.proboards28.com/index.cgi to see what they tought and it seems that everyone has a different spin on how they do it. Some guitars may be more fragile than others, but mine have not proven to be as fragile as I treat them.




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    The guy has some good info, however with the wolf vs. ebmm i cant comment.
    Because i have never played an Axis or EVH.

    However I liked the page on the wolfie EXP's that that guy emailed in.
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    Wow. King size signature.

    I usually end up starting from the Low E. It's never failed me for years.
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    so i dont need to worry about taking all 6 strings off of my EVH EBMM when i'm doing a string change??

    just checking
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    a block to go under your floyd to protect the finish might be usefull

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