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    Question Neck Shape Followup?

    OK ... I'm 6'5" tall and about 265 lbs. .... with hands to match.

    I generally go for fairly chunky necks ... which EBMM has the most neck chunk quotient?!

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    Deacon -

    I'm in the same size category as you (6-4 / 235) and have an Albert Lee
    My initial reaction was that the neck felt small/narrow but was well shaped and I liked the feel. None of EB/MM necks that I tried (Axis, JP, Silo) have anywhere near a fat or chunky feel in the old LP or Strat vein. And although it took several test drives I reaized I like the feel and didn't miss the chunk, even though my hands could handle it. After that it gets subjective.

    There are several threads about neck feel and each has numerous ways of describing the individual necks, including one recent one which has a link to an older one where Norm gives a play by play comparison of the Silo and Morse. The threads include guys with "small hands" and guys with "large hands" both describing how the neck of the same guitar fits them and there styles.

    My best advice is to try what you can and see how it feels. No matter how anyone else describes it, one man's pleasure is another man's pain and you don't know until you actually try.

    Sorry I couldn't be more definitive, some of the guys here are better at descriptive analysis, but I guess I just wanted to let you know for a similar size guy the AL fits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbgreene
    Deacon -

    I'm in the same size category as you (6-4 / 235) and have an Albert Lee
    My initial reaction was that the neck felt small/narrow but was well shaped and I liked the feel. None of EB/MM necks that I tried (Axis, JP, Silo) have anywhere near a fat or chunky feel in the old LP or Strat vein. And although it took several test drives I reaized I like the feel and didn't miss the chunk, even though my hands could handle it. After that it gets subjective.

    There are several threads about neck feel and each has numerous ways of describing the individual necks, including one recent one which has a link to an older one where Norm gives a play by play comparison of the Silo and Morse. The threads include guys with "small hands" and guys with "large hands" both describing how the neck of the same guitar fits them and there styles.

    My best advice is to try what you can and see how it feels. No matter how anyone else describes it, one man's pleasure is another man's pain and you don't know until you actually try.

    Sorry I couldn't be more definitive, some of the guys here are better at descriptive analysis, but I guess I just wanted to let you know for a similar size guy the AL fits.

    Good Luck
    Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately for me, there are no EBMM's in my town to try out.

    Based on all the reading I've done, I think my best bets are either a Silo or a Morse. They both seem to be very versatile and I think the neck shapes I've heard described sound doable to me.

    I worry about constantly knocking the forward most toggle switch on the Morse when I'm strumming, though. I could see myself constantly flipping on the bridge humbucker when I'm comping.

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    I'm also a large guy: 6'4", 290# with large hands, and I found the EBMM JP that I've owned for about 1-1/2 months to be the best neck shape for all but one style I play. Most of my original music is Progressive Metal - in the style of Dream Theater/Malmsteen/Rhoads, etc. - lots of stretches and quick runs, which the JP excels at.

    But when I play Jazz chords using all four fingers all crunched together, I miss the C shape of my F*nd*r. With chords like that, there's a gap between my thumb/palm and the back of the thin JP neck. That gap used to be filled by the C shape neck. I guess some of the other EBMM models have a more traditional C shape. So I'm having to alter my positions to make playing Jazz more comfortable on the JP. For Rock/Metal/Neo-Classical stuff though, the JP neck is the best and fastest (least limiting) I've ever played.

    Anm ironic side note: Since I bought the JP, a guitar clearly designed for hard rock/metal, I find myself fingerpicking through the Piezo more than anything - It sounds amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edensdad
    I'm also a large guy: 6'4", 290# with large hands, and I found the EBMM JP that I've owned for about 1-1/2 months to be the best neck shape for all but one style I play. Most of my original music is Progressive Metal - in the style of Dream Theater/Malmsteen/Rhoads, etc. - lots of stretches and quick runs, which the JP excels at.

    But when I play Jazz chords using all four fingers all crunched together, I miss the C shape of my F*nd*r. With chords like that, there's a gap between my thumb/palm and the back of the thin JP neck. That gap used to be filled by the C shape neck. I guess some of the other EBMM models have a more traditional C shape. So I'm having to alter my positions to make playing Jazz more comfortable on the JP. For Rock/Metal/Neo-Classical stuff though, the JP neck is the best and fastest (least limiting) I've ever played.

    Anm ironic side note: Since I bought the JP, a guitar clearly designed for hard rock/metal, I find myself fingerpicking through the Piezo more than anything - It sounds amazing.
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    Thanks for the reply.

    I mostly play blues, progressive rock, jam band type stuff. In my band I'd like to have a guitar that has a ton of tonal versatility and is comfortable to hang off my shoulder for a 4+ hour long gig.

    If that dang switch on the Morse wasn't pretty much right where I strum, I'd probably already have ordered one!

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    so, would you say that axis necks are chunkier than tose on Sillos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deacon
    ...is comfortable to hang off my shoulder for a 4+ hour long gig.

    If that dang switch on the Morse wasn't pretty much right where I strum, I'd probably already have ordered one!
    The Morse is quite a bit heavier than the axis SS and if you get the humbucker Axis SS with Piezo that's 5 positions plus Piezo position alone (6), plus you can add the piezo to all 5 humbucker positions and it has a seperate vol control.

    That equals versatility in my book (confession...it's a picture book).
    KEITH

    Plus it comes in way more colors with a better top.

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