i was wondering if someone could enlighten me on the differences between the stingrays produced now by EB and the ones that were made by musicman. im really enjoying my 2000 stingray but the vintage ones look extremely cool. any experts out there?
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bovinehost
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Yes! I can see some! Let's see if we can get them to make a noise!
Someone loan me a stick, I'm going to poke at them.
dhuffguitars
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A Pre Ernie Ball Stingray has-
skunk stripe, because of different style truss rod.
sometimes a 7.25 radius fingerboard
Alnico pickup (newer 'ray's are ceramic magnets)
string through bridge with mutes
slab body
3 bolt neck with micro tilt
one less face dot
different logo
different finish on neck, necks generally also have a different shape
2 band boost only pre
MOJO!!!
skunk stripe, because of different style truss rod.
sometimes a 7.25 radius fingerboard
Alnico pickup (newer 'ray's are ceramic magnets)
string through bridge with mutes
slab body
3 bolt neck with micro tilt
one less face dot
different logo
different finish on neck, necks generally also have a different shape
2 band boost only pre
MOJO!!!
prickly_pete
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dhuffguitars Alnico pickup (newer 'ray's are ceramic magnets) [/QUOTE said:
dhuffguitars
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thanks for the correction!
It's hard to explain, but to me the necks have less of a shoulder......
It's hard to explain, but to me the necks have less of a shoulder......
Rod Trussbroken
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>>>>I thought the preamp was boost/cut despite the lack of center detente
dlloyd...in my opinion, you are 100%
Although the Pre-EBs have no centre detent, the Pre-EB hang tag manuals clearly refer to the pre-amps as both cut and boost and advise to start off with controls in the centre position.
Derek Brooks has also confirmed the cut/boost nature of the Pre-EBs in a previous thread.
Out of interest, the treble pot appears to have a log-antilog taper. I've been told by a radio tech that this is the kind of taper used for left/right channel balance in home stereo units and has a central position adjustment.
( get outta here with that stick Jack )
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dlloyd...in my opinion, you are 100%
Although the Pre-EBs have no centre detent, the Pre-EB hang tag manuals clearly refer to the pre-amps as both cut and boost and advise to start off with controls in the centre position.
Derek Brooks has also confirmed the cut/boost nature of the Pre-EBs in a previous thread.
Out of interest, the treble pot appears to have a log-antilog taper. I've been told by a radio tech that this is the kind of taper used for left/right channel balance in home stereo units and has a central position adjustment.
( get outta here with that stick Jack
).
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MingusBASS
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Another little known up side of owning a pre eb stingray is that they come with a beanie w/ a spinner on top just so people know it's PRE EB. 'Cause it would be a real shame if you were caught playing an Ernieball Musicman Stingray. The Quality is clearly better on PRE EB's. RIGHT?!?!?!?!
*pats vintage whores on the shoulder*
there there... its gonna be alright
Andrew
*pats vintage whores on the shoulder*
there there... its gonna be alright
Andrew
JB1 said:
My modulus is pretty cool. It came with a bart pickup and a bart preamp and it sounded awful (not well defined, muddy, and kind of clicky) but i switched the bart stuff out for a lane poor pickup and an aguilar pickup....it really made the bass much better. I would describe the sound as more trebly and somewhat sterile....due to the graphite neck. it is the best slapper i've ever had (yes, even better than the stingray
) and the neck never moves around, even in drastic temp changes. extremely low action also.
dhuffguitars
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I am not saying a Pre Eb is better than a EB. I have had about 16 stingrays, pre Eb, transition era when they were made by another company(Charvel?Jackson?) before Ernie bought them, and then Ernie ball. They are all great basses.
My first REAL bass was a black 1978 Stingray, so to me that is what will always feel like home to me. I prefer a 2 band over a 3 band, but I own both right now.
When I think of a Stingray I think of that original logo, string through, muted bridge, 2 band, skunk striped neck, 3 bolt....
I am stuck on looks as much as feel and tone, maybe that is why I went into building basses for a living.
My first REAL bass was a black 1978 Stingray, so to me that is what will always feel like home to me. I prefer a 2 band over a 3 band, but I own both right now.
When I think of a Stingray I think of that original logo, string through, muted bridge, 2 band, skunk striped neck, 3 bolt....
I am stuck on looks as much as feel and tone, maybe that is why I went into building basses for a living.
MingusBASS
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My post wasn't directed torwards anyone on this forum. I just don't like the notion that "Vintage" is always better. I've ran into a lot of people with that mantra and it bothers me. I've played tons of vintage basses that were awesome and just as many that sucked.
Andrew
Andrew
Rod Trussbroken
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>>>do the older ones weigh more than the newer ones?
Catalogue says 15 lbs which is what my 79 is. A lot weigh less than that.
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Catalogue says 15 lbs which is what my 79 is. A lot weigh less than that.
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Morrow
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a friend has an early one that is mid-weight.Plays like butter.
dhuffguitars
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They are not all 15lbs, that is the heavy side.... I have three(76,78,82(CutlassI) ) and they are all 9.5-10.5
I would say that back then the weight did vary more than the current ones though.
I would say that back then the weight did vary more than the current ones though.
