Discontinued Music Man list. October 31. 2015

[Dargin]

Hello fellow Knuckleheads,

Below is the list of our models and finishes that will be discontinued 10-31-15. We are streamlining our current roster to make room for all the new guitars and basses we have coming out. There have been some teasers and tidbits leaking out through social, so keep an eye out. Two new guitar models in October?? We couldn't be more excited for the future!

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StingRay -- 111 StingRay Piezo
05 Sapphire Black
11 Blue Pearl
21 Candy Red
47 White Pearl
50 Translucent Red
53 Translucent Gold
56 Translucent Blue
70 Honey Burst
73 Tobacco Burst
74 Cherry Burst
75 Black Cherry Burst
76 Pacific Blue Burst
SC Stealth Charcoal
SW Stealth Pearl
SH Stealth Crimson
TG Tangerine Pearl
SB Sky Blue
SS Silver Sparkle

StingRay5 -- 151 StingRay5 Piezo
05 Sapphire Black
11 Blue Pearl
21 Candy Red
47 White Pearl
50 Translucent Red
53 Translucent Gold
56 Translucent Blue
70 Honey Burst
73 Tobacco Burst
74 Cherry Burst
75 Black Cherry Burst
76 Pacific Blue Burst
SC Stealth Charcoal
SW Stealth Pearl
SH Stealth Crimson
TG Tangerine Pearl
SB Sky Blue
SS Silver Sparkle

Sterling -- 171 Sterling Piezo
05 Sapphire Black
11 Blue Pearl
21 Candy Red
47 White Pearl
50 Translucent Red
53 Translucent Gold
56 Translucent Blue
70 Honey Burst
73 Tobacco Burst
74 Cherry Burst
75 Black Cherry Burst
76 Pacific Blue Burst
SC Stealth Charcoal
SW Stealth Pearl
SH Stealth Crimson
TG Tangerine Pearl
SB Sky Blue
SS Silver Sparkle

Sterling5 -- 196 Sterling5 HS
05 Sapphire Black
11 Blue Pearl
21 Candy Red
47 White Pearl
50 Translucent Red
53 Translucent Gold
56 Translucent Blue
70 Honey Burst
73 Tobacco Burst
74 Cherry Burst
75 Black Cherry Burst
76 Pacific Blue Burst
SC Stealth Charcoal
SW Stealth Pearl
SH Stealth Crimson
TG Tangerine Pearl
SB Sky Blue
SS Silver Sparkle

Classic Collection -- 101 Classic Sabre, 275 Classic Sterling
56 Translucent Blue
70 Honey Burst
76 Pacific Blue Burst
RC Classic Red



Neck Through StingRay
05 Sapphire Black
11 Blue Pearl
21 Candy Red
47 White Pearl
73 Tobacco Burst
75 Black Cherry Burst
76 Pacific Blue Burst
SS Silver Sparkle

Bongo -- All Piezo Bongo, All Lefty Bongo
Bongo 5 H, Bongo 6 H S
21 Candy Red
SH Stealth Crimson
SS Silver Sparkle
SC Stealth Charcoal
Stealth Pearl

Reflex Bass -- 230, 232, 234
235, 237, 239
Entire Line

Big Al Bass 940, 942, 945, 947
Entire Line

Armada -- 755 MM90
Y1 Sunburst Flame
Y5 Black Cherry Flame
Z1 Sunburst Quilt
Z4 Balboa Blue Quilt
Z5 Black Cherry Quilt

Axis Colors only (you'll be able to
choose your top now)
01 Black
05 Sapphire Black
11 Blue Pearl
21 Candy Red
47 White Pearl
50 Translucent Red
52 Translucent Orange
56 Translucent Blue
70 Honey Burst
71 Vintage Sunburst
73 Tobacco Burst
74 Cherry Burst
75 Black Cherry Burst
76 Pacific Blue Burst
SB Sky Blue
TG Tangerine Pearl
SS Silver Sparkle

Axis Super Sport 311, 321, 315, 336 (no more piezo)
330, 331, 340, 341, 355, 356, 365, 366
(no more MM90)
410, 430, 440 (select left-handed models)
01 Black
05 Sapphire Black
11 Blue Pearl
21 Candy Red
47 White Pearl
50 Translucent Red
52 Translucent Orange
56 Translucent Blue
70 Honey Burst
71 Vintage Sunburst
73 Tobacco Burst
74 Cherry Burst
75 Black Cherry Burst
76 Pacific Blue Burst
SB Sky Blue
TG Tangerine Pearl
SS Silver Sparkle

BFR Axis 302
Entire Line

BFR Axis Super Sport 312, 322
Entire Line

Silhouette 511 Piezo Hardtail, 521 Piezo Tremolo
05 Sapphire Black
11 Blue Pearl
21 Candy Red
47 White Pearl
71 Vintage Sunburst
SB Sky Blue
SS Silver Sparkle
TG Tangerine Pearl

Silhouette Special 530, 531, 535, 536, 541, 545, 546, 630, 635,
640, 645
(Everything except HSS)
05 Sapphire Black
11 Blue Pearl
21 Candy Red
47 White Pearl
71 Vintage Sunburst
SB Sky Blue
SS Silver Sparkle
TG Tangerine Pearl

BFR Silhouette Gold Roller 777
Entire Line

Reflex Guitar 390, 395
Entire Line

Morse
905 Floyd Rose Tremolo
01 Black
02 White
05 Sapphire Black
11 Blue Pearl
21 Candy Red
47 White Pearl
71 Vintage Sunburst
SB Sky Blue
SS Silver Sparkle
TG Tangerine Pearl

Morse Y2D (Colors only)
(You can now pick quilt/flame)
BL Black Burst
SR Solar Flare
77 Purple Sunset

Luke 916 (no more piezo) 917 (no more lefty)
01 Black
02 White
05 Sapphire Black
11 Blue Pearl
21 Candy Red
47 White Pearl
SB Sky Blue
SS Silver Sparkle
TG Tangerine Pearl

BFR Luke (Colors only)
QC Black Burst Quilt
QR Ruby Burst Quilt
QT Bahama Blue Quilt
FC Black Burst Flame
FR Ruby Burst Flame
FT Bahama Blue Flame

BFR Luke 3 (Colors only)
QC Black Burst Quilt
QR Ruby Burst Quilt
QT Bahama Blue Quilt
FC Black Burst Flame
FR Ruby Burst Flame
FT Bahama Blue Flame

Albert Lee
920 SSS Hardtail
921 SSS Hardtail Piezo
926 SSS Tremolo PIezo
930 MM90 Hardtail
931 MM90 Hardtail Piezo
935 MM90 Trem
936 MM90 Trem Piezo
01 Black
02 White
05 Sapphire Black
11 Blue Pearl
21 Candy Red
47 White Pearl
50 Translucent Red
52 Translucent Orange
53 Translucent Gold
56 Translucent Blue
70 Honey Burst
71 Vintage Sunburst
73 Tobacco Burst
74 Cherry Burst
75 Black Cherry Burst
76 Pacific Blue Burst
SB Sky Blue
TG Tangerine Pearl
SS Silver Sparkle


BFR Albert Lee 922, 923, 927, 928
Entire Line

John Petrucci
966 Lefty 6 string HH no piezo
976 Lefty 7 string HH no piezo
02 White
05 Sapphire Black
11 Blue Pearl
21 Candy Red
47 White Pearl
SB Sky Blue
SW Stealth White
SC Stealth Charcoal
SH Stealth Crimson

BFR John Petrucci
964 Lefty 6 string
974 Lefty 7 string
QT Bahama Blue Quilt
FC Black Burst Flame
FT Bahama Blue Flame
H1 Hazel Flame
H2 Hazel Quilt
B1 Blueberry Flame
B2 Blueberry Quilt
QQ Solar Burst Quilt
QF Solar Burst Flame

 

[Meypelnek]

Phew! So no more Reflex and Big Al? That makes me sad.
Can't say the same about the piezo basses, however, I assume many customers will be disappointed.

Edit: Typo

 

[Kong]

Sad, sad news.

So I hope I am able to collect all the money I need for my Reflex 5 HSS and my Big Al SSS I am planing to purchase.

Time is running out...

 

[stu42]

Just to confirm what this means....you're saying that, for instance, the Bongo 5H will still be available but just not in the colours indicated?

And piezo will no longer be an option for any Bongos? Or is it just that no configuration of piezo Bongos will be available in the colours indicated?

Are you coming out with new colours for some of the models? Just wondering as, for instance, after you eliminate the colurs indicated the Sterling 5HS would only be available in 5 colours (black, stealth black, white, vintage sunburst and natural).

Just want to make sure I'm interpreting this correctly.

Also, while I'm not really heartbroken about the Reflex, I find it surprising that the Big Al bass is going away. I had one for a while and really liked that one!

THanks!

 

[Dargin]

Just to confirm what this means....you're saying that, for instance, the Bongo 5H will still be available but just not in the colours indicated? Correct.

And piezo will no longer be an option for any Bongos? Or is it just that no configuration of piezo Bongos will be available in the colours indicated? No piezo will be available for the Bongo line. The colors listed will be discontinued.

Are you coming out with new colours for some of the models? Just wondering as, for instance, after you eliminate the colurs indicated the Sterling 5HS would only be available in 5 colours (black, stealth black, white, vintage sunburst and natural). There will be a few new colors. 6 total finishes will be available on the Stingray / Sterling line.

 

[Dargin]

The reason we are discontinuing finishes is so we can streamline what we are selling vs. what we are offering. These finishes represent a small percentage of what we actually make. Discontinuing these various finishes / models provides us flexibility for future models and custom runs. It has become impossible to stock and offer so many body models, finishes, and pick guards. In the near future you will see many different shapes, sizes, and features on multiple guitars and basses!

 

[stu42]

Very good. Thank you for clarifying that!

 

[uOpt]

So sorry but that list causes more confusion than anything.

We can't see which models are terminated entirely.

Can you annotate with "colors that are left", if any?

 

[Movielife]

Really shocked to see the Big Al go. I'm glad I picked one up. Good luck

 

[muggsy]

So my last two bass purchases, Bongo HS w/piezo and Big Al SSS, are both going out of production. Boy, do I know how to pick 'em.

 

[Big Poppa]

Everything we discontinued was a valid choice...in the end the customers voted with their dollar and didnt buy the stuff.

 

[bovinehost]

Thus it has always been. Big Poppa will tell you how I felt about the crazy sparkle finishes (and one color that reminded some of baby poop) but if customers don't buy them, that's the market speaking.

I, for one, welcome our NEW DIFFERENT SHAPES SIZES AND FEATURES OVERLORDS!!

 

[MadMatt]

Everything we discontinued was a valid choice...in the end the customers voted with their dollar and didnt buy the stuff.

Although many of us are saddened by the discontinued lines, I think we should all remember how much we benefit from EBMM being a healthy and sound company. I am all about good, market driven, business decisions even if they are a little uncomfortable.

I, for one, welcome our NEW DIFFERENT SHAPES SIZES AND FEATURES OVERLORDS!!

THIS is what I'm talkin' about!!!

 

[muggsy]

Everything we discontinued was a valid choice...in the end the customers voted with their dollar and didnt buy the stuff.

Not questioning that at all, I never doubted that these were smart, market-driven decisions. I will be sorry to see the Big Al go, but again, happy I have mine. Same for the piezo Bongo. And I am very interested to see what comes next.

 

[OldManMusic]

I'm excited for the future models and grateful I had the opportunity to own some of the soon-to-be discontinued models. The market speaks and only foolish companies (or governments) don't listen.

 

[Lynottfan]

A wise choice to listen to your customers, they speak with their currency as stated, so bring on the crazy new stuff for us to drool on. Out of curiosity has the idea of opening up the "parts " side of the business (necks, bridges, pickups etc) ever a consideration, or is it more of a case that side of things is not in the company ethos?

 

[SugarMaple]

I'm really looking forward to the new offerings. Kudos to EBMM for continuing to improve their product, with the performing bassist always in mind. I've been a StingRay owner for over 20 years, and I can honestly say the introduction of 2 pickup models a few years ago was a major, major step forward. Other updates, like the new nut design and the feel of the fingerboard edges have been great, too. The two-pickup introduction was massive, though. I'm looking forward to what is coming, whether it be major steps or nice minor ones.

I'm glad to see the Sterling continue, too. Even though I am a longtime Stingray owner, getting my first Sterling was a big deal for me, it's now my favorite bass ever. The neck profile is just perfect. I looked long and hard at the Big Al, since it shares a similar thin neck profile, and because the passive pickups and other electronic options are really interesting, but I couldn't get past the looks of it.

Anyhow, I'm looking forward to the new stuff a lot.

 

[mdstingray]

Everything we discontinued was a valid choice...in the end the customers voted with their dollar and didnt buy the stuff.

But why did the customer not buy the Reflex and Big Al?
I suppose you need to know, before you start thinking of anything new.
I'm sure you're not running a trial and error business.

Also:
With bringing out new products, doesn't that mean that people who buy a Reflex, won't buy (for example) a Stingray?
That does not increase revenue.
Or is the main focus (outside of making excellent gear) to increase overall market-share?
Seems to me that customers who want to own every MM bass out there is limited to a very few (like me) only.


Just friendly wondering
All the best
Michel

 

[sanderhermans]

But why did the customer not buy the Reflex and Big Al?
I suppose you need to know, before you start thinking of anything new.
I'm sure you're not running a trial and error business.

Also:
With bringing out new products, doesn't that mean that people who buy a Reflex, won't buy (for example) a Stingray?
That does not increase revenue.
Or is the main focus (outside of making excellent gear) to increase overall market-share?
Seems to me that customers who want to own every MM bass out there is limited to a very few (like me) only.


Just friendly wondering
All the best
Michel

I think the complex ellectronics on both basses where a big holdback for manny players out there who are used to the regular bass controlls. 4 band eq, series/paralel, active/passive, manny pickup options,.... might be too much for alot of people out there. Add to that the "weird" shape of the big al and the higher pricing than the stingray and i can understand why id did not sell. Never the less, if i ever have some cash left and find a cool big al, i wouldnt hesitate.

 

[shastaband]

Forgive me if I'm still confused. Will there be NO piezo option on Stingray 4 or 5 basses in the future, not even on the fretless models? I LOVE the piezo sound on my Stingray5H fretless.