Jp standard vs Jp Bfr

[shon53]

after some searchings i found that i can buy in my country only the jp standard or the jp bfr (i wish i could buy the jpx) but i can try only the jp standard and the jp bfr i cant try (only if i'll find someone that own that guitar and will let me try it...)
next week im going to try the jp and some other guitars and maybe i'll buy one.
so in your opinions i should buy the standard or the bfr even that i cant try it? and what the big difference?

thanks,
Shon.

 

[Benji Peterson]

I was doing some recording samples yesterday between my jp6, JPXI, and JPXII 7 and was particularly amazed at the difference in sound between the standard jp6 and my other two. The jp6 was far and away a brighter sounding guitar. It's snappy and very direct sounding. Both the XI and XII are much warmer, creamier sounding. They're very full throughout the sonic range and have a full and warm bottom end with a creamy, airy top end. The XI was a tad brighter than the XII which was the warmest of the lot. I don't have a standard BFR model but at this point would say the tone woods of the bfr's make a very considerable difference. If you can, I'd suggest playing both first and back to back before ordering. If you can't, I'd suggest considering my description of the two basic characterizations and think which would work best for you.

 

[shon53]

I was doing some recording samples yesterday between my jp6, JPXI, and JPXII 7 and was particularly amazed at the difference in sound between the standard jp6 and my other two. The jp6 was far and away a brighter sounding guitar. It's snappy and very direct sounding. Both the XI and XII are much warmer, creamier sounding. They're very full throughout the sonic range and have a full and warm bottom end with a creamy, airy top end. The XI was a tad brighter than the XII which was the warmest of the lot. I don't have a standard BFR model but at this point would say the tone woods of the bfr's make a very considerable difference. If you can, I'd suggest playing both first and back to back before ordering. If you can't, I'd suggest considering my description of the two basic characterizations and think which would work best for you.

Thanks for comment, which one you prefer? and can you send me the recording samples?

 

[Razzle]

yea Ben, post those samples!

 

[Benji Peterson]

Ask and you shall receive! I'll probably do a full video covering the A and B section of JP's Glasgow Kiss at some point but here's something for you guys to chew on for now. They are in numerical order. JP6- JPXI- JPXII 7
https://soundcloud.com/benny-peterson-ii/music-man-jp6-jpxi-jpxii-7

As far as which one I would prefer I would say that each have their advantages. I love the rich warmth from the JPXI and JPXII but think the snappy sound of the JP6 just might make it a bit more versatile across a wider musical range. In band practice it does the split coil thing the most convincingly. It sounds pretty good over classic rock stuff like Jame's Gang etc. I would play my Al or ASS for that stuff live but when I take one guitar to cover everything from country to 80's rock stuff the original JP6 does it a bit better than the BFR models. The JPXI and JPXII nail the current Dream Theater tone, as if that would come as any surprise, so it's more enjoyable for me to play that stuff with those two. The XI and XII because they sound darker/warmer overall are especially good at the progressive rock thing, better than the JP6, but feel limited to that application for me personally.
I prefer the 15" radius for overall playing. I have smaller hands and it's almost impossible to do the hendrix type stuff on the JPXI's 20" neck profile. The more narrow 15" makes it just within comfortable reach to do the thumb over the neck style stuff ala Hendrix, SRV, John Mayer, etc. That being said, the 20" is just incredible for very technical material and can't be beat.
My JPXI is considerably heavier than my JP6. Of course, this will vary from guitar to guitar. The feel of the smaller bodied JP6 is more comfortable but I prefer the look of the JPXI and JPXII. I'm not crazy about the body shape of the standard BFR in terms of aesthetics.

I'd say if you're into a multitude of styles then you could be happy saving some money and getting the JP6. If metal and technical material is your thing then I'd say the BFR would probably be a little more up your alley. Take all this with a grain of salt. It's one man's opinion. Like I said before, if you can play them both then that's what you should do. Surprisingly, the JP6 was the most recent acquisition and it took me several days to appreciate it. I was not very impressed with it at first. I was not expecting such a drastic difference from the JPXI and JPXII. The more I dialed in the setup and broke it in the better it seemed to get. Now I truly feel they're all necessary parts of the collection and I wouldn't want to not have any one of them. If I just had to have one guitar though it would probably be the JP6.

 

[Razzle]

That's a great clip Ben. Honestly I had to listen to them several times to really hear a difference, but I could hear the JP6 is brighter. I have a JPX and love the smooth tone, but I think a JP6 is in my future. thanks

 

[Benji Peterson]

It's not quite so obvious in that example. I'll record some stuff sans the delay and upload those as well. When the request was made for the samples I'd already deleted them. Keep an eye on this thread or I may begin another.

 

[shon53]

Ask and you shall receive! I'll probably do a full video covering the A and B section of JP's Glasgow Kiss at some point but here's something for you guys to chew on for now. They are in numerical order. JP6- JPXI- JPXII 7
https://soundcloud.com/benny-peterson-ii/music-man-jp6-jpxi-jpxii-7

As far as which one I would prefer I would say that each have their advantages. I love the rich warmth from the JPXI and JPXII but think the snappy sound of the JP6 just might make it a bit more versatile across a wider musical range. In band practice it does the split coil thing the most convincingly. It sounds pretty good over classic rock stuff like Jame's Gang etc. I would play my Al or ASS for that stuff live but when I take one guitar to cover everything from country to 80's rock stuff the original JP6 does it a bit better than the BFR models. The JPXI and JPXII nail the current Dream Theater tone, as if that would come as any surprise, so it's more enjoyable for me to play that stuff with those two. The XI and XII because they sound darker/warmer overall are especially good at the progressive rock thing, better than the JP6, but feel limited to that application for me personally.
I prefer the 15" radius for overall playing. I have smaller hands and it's almost impossible to do the hendrix type stuff on the JPXI's 20" neck profile. The more narrow 15" makes it just within comfortable reach to do the thumb over the neck style stuff ala Hendrix, SRV, John Mayer, etc. That being said, the 20" is just incredible for very technical material and can't be beat.
My JPXI is considerably heavier than my JP6. Of course, this will vary from guitar to guitar. The feel of the smaller bodied JP6 is more comfortable but I prefer the look of the JPXI and JPXII. I'm not crazy about the body shape of the standard BFR in terms of aesthetics.

I'd say if you're into a multitude of styles then you could be happy saving some money and getting the JP6. If metal and technical material is your thing then I'd say the BFR would probably be a little more up your alley. Take all this with a grain of salt. It's one man's opinion. Like I said before, if you can play them both then that's what you should do. Surprisingly, the JP6 was the most recent acquisition and it took me several days to appreciate it. I was not very impressed with it at first. I was not expecting such a drastic difference from the JPXI and JPXII. The more I dialed in the setup and broke it in the better it seemed to get. Now I truly feel they're all necessary parts of the collection and I wouldn't want to not have any one of them. If I just had to have one guitar though it would probably be the JP6.

Thanks! for my taste the JPXI sounds the best then the standard and then the jp12
anyways i wont buy the JPX/I/II in my country so i have only the option of the standard or the bfr i'll go try the standard again and maybe ill try to find somewhere to try the bfr.
In look i think that the bfr looks gorgeous also the JPX but i dont realy like the look of the standard, only in mystic dream or the white its looks nice but the BFR and the JPX looks much much better.
by the way what amp are you using?
Thanks for help me!

 

[shon53]

It's not quite so obvious in that example. I'll record some stuff sans the delay and upload those as well. When the request was made for the samples I'd already deleted them. Keep an eye on this thread or I may begin another.

one more question, can i drop tuning without setup with the jp standard or its like in floyd rose that cant drop tuning without setup
not drop tuning for long time, i mean dropping the tune to play a song and then go back to the standard tuning

 

[Benji Peterson]

one more question, can i drop tuning without setup with the jp standard or its like in floyd rose that cant drop tuning without setup
not drop tuning for long time, i mean dropping the tune to play a song and then go back to the standard tuning

It's a floating system, like a Floyd. String tension is shared across all six strings so dramatic changes cannot be done on the fly. Some use a tremel-no but I don't have any experience with that product.

 

[joe web]

I had my Dealer installed a Back Box on my jp6 to achieve drop-d tunings on the fly without retuning all the other strings.
Works great.

As ar as bfr vs. Jp6 ....used to have both and i sold the bfr again. Don't get me wrong, it's a great guitar and i loved the sound and the look as well, but the regular jp is more my Cup of tea.
At the moment i own a jpx7 and think about selling it and get a jp7 again.
They Sound and feel great, but i still prefer the "normal" ones, especially if you find a limited run with ebony fretboard, they are even cooler. ;-)