jp6 came today, woohoo!

[Glassmoon]

got a fully loaded mystic jp6 and it's so nice. I'm setting it up today, as it came with 5/64th on the action. someone was playin the blues, methinks.

trying to get it down to 1/32 but it's giving me probs right now. I've got it slightly above 1/32 and it's buzzing at the 7th and 14th frets more than the others. it's also fretting out on the g string bending from the 14th fret and on the b string bending from the 7th fret. any advice from jp owners would be great, as well. it's gettin there!

I love the guitar's playability, feel and look. haven't really tested the sound yet, but have owned the ibanez jp's and they sounded great. it's really hard to get used to the top front body contour, because my arm wants to lift away from the body to pick fast. (since I'm used to no contour from my evh, axis and teles. it's wild, but I will get used to it because that's one of the things that brought me to the guitar in the first place...I envisioned a guitar that was easier to play live with those contours.

eb/mm has proven, once again, they make the best guitars. kudos!

 

[metaled]

Congrats!!!! Hope you can get the action the way you like it. Good luck and enjoy. Yes, EBMM makes the best guitars!!!!!

 

[learningtolive]

Great buy man, I hope to get one myself in the near future. Does the Musicman FAQ on the Ernie Ball page say anything about the action?

 

[Glassmoon]

i toyed with it some more and it just won't work at 1/32. a guy at the jp forum said I'll need the frets leveled to get it that low...I was afraid of that. it's all good, I think I can compromise between 1/32 and 2/32 and be fine for now. once the honeymoon phase is over with the guitar I'll have the frets milled, i guess.

I'm lovin this guitar so much. I think having jp on board with ebmm was a great thing. he was able to bring a guitar to the eb line that has some fast and comfortable playability. I've always loved the luke and axis guitars, but it's nice to have the flatter radius with the comfort of an eb neck.

gotta check out the sound of it soon, I still haven't done that.

 

[dwf1004]

You could read it goofy...

Just kiddin' with ya...here's what the EBMM FAQ has about that:

"Factory string setting for standard tuning starts at the bass side 2/32" (0.0254m) to 5/64" (0.127m) and the treble side is 3/64" (0.0762m) to 2/32" (.254m) measured from the 12th fret to the bottom of the strings. The top of the strings should have the radius of the fretboard when you are looking at the strings in the playing position and by rotating the instrument while at the same time bringing strings into view one at a time. Remember, string height is ultimately determined by your preference and playing style, as well as the string gauge and tuning (if you you use an alternate tuning). Again, after every adjustment it is necessary to re-tune the guitar, to give you a starting reference."

Next time, I bill you.

 

[OrangeChannel]

Higher action = better TONE. Which is why I boosted my Desert Gold a bit after getting it back in june....sounds redonkulous.

 

[metaled]

Thats why i like the low profile frets like the Luke has,you can get the action nice and low without any buzzing! But that wouldn`t stop me from buying a JP model, i would just deal with it cause its a Music Man....the greatest guitars in the world!!!!

 

[koogie2k]

Awesome buy bro! OC and myself also have the Mystic. Ernie1966 has all of them and then some, so I won't mention him! .....hhehehehehe......

I have two of mine set up at 2/32 and my other slightly higher due to the drop C tuning....they all play great! You will soon see why you can't only have just one....like me....hehehehehe....

 

[Glassmoon]

awesome. sounds like some of you guys have way too many petruccis. or is it not enough petruccis? I could see that being the case, I'm sure I'll get another.

lol, darrell...I had read the faq, but most guitars I've been able to take far beyond the limits the manufacturer sets. with this guitar it's odd...since it has a flatter radius than an axis I'd think it could get much lower action, but it's hovering at about 3/64ths right now, which is what I have on my axis with no buzz.

no biggy, though, cause at 3/64ths it just flies. after playin it for a few hours I can't imagine the action any lower, it would just provoke a whole lot of wankin.

I'd post a pic, but you guys have seen enough mystics to last a lifetime on this forum, I'm sure, LOL.

I'm still trying to not raise my elbow since the contour's there...I'm so used to having my elbow higher from the body that I find myself doin it without realizing. I'm gettin more used to it, though, and the advantages I had hoped for while playing standing up are definite. I love this guitar! I have a feeling I'll be lookin for another in egyptian smoke soon, hehe...or whatever that silverish color is, looks cool.

 

[Glassmoon]

Higher action = better TONE. Which is why I boosted my Desert Gold a bit after getting it back in june....sounds redonkulous.

I dig what you're sayin, orange. however, it is a cliche used too much over the last several years. by that I mean it really depends on a person's style...if the setup doesn't mesh with a person's style they may or may not end up fighting it all the way. that depends on their adaptability, but holds true most of the time. that being counter-productive, I don't think it's fair to say higher action=better tone. besides, look at shawn lane. his action was ridiculously low, but he got a much better tone than alot of the other shredders, imho. you have to go with your comfort and style.

anyway, just wanted to throw that out there after having endured the last 5 years of that statement. just one guy's opinion.

 

[Warg Master]

I, too, have a MD.. .nice guitar... I have mine some where in between 1/32 and 1/16... perfect, with excellent tone for me..

Congrats!

 

[fqjcior]

"Factory string setting for standard tuning starts at the bass side 2/32" (0.0254m) to 5/64" (0.127m) and the treble side is 3/64" (0.0762m) to 2/32" (.254m) measured from the 12th fret to the bottom of the strings."

dwf1004: how to measure this??????? What tool should I use??

Congrats Glassmoon!! You will love your new axe as nothing before ;-)
As I am in love with my PRB

 

[dwf1004]

you said 'tool'...YES!

I would use a protractor...

Seriously, if I read this right, this sounds to be the right thing for the job...

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Special_tools_for:_Cleaning,_maintenance/Feeler_Gauges.html

Hope that helps, and someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong...I just went by the description.

 

[brentrocks]

congrats on the purchase, let's see it!!!

 

[PurpleSport]

you said 'tool'...YES!

I would use a protractor...

Seriously, if I read this right, this sounds to be the right thing for the job...

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Special_tools_for:_Cleaning,_maintenance/Feeler_Gauges.html

Hope that helps, and someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong...I just went by the description.

You're on the right track, Darrell...however, I wouldn't spend that kinda money on that particular piece.

You can get equally good, generic feeler gauges at good automotive and hardware stores for a LOT less - here's an example:

http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs...talogId=10101&storeId=10101&langId=-1&TID=100

Irritates the bejabbers outta me when musical instrument dealers take a commercially available product and "specialize" it (read: take out plenty of useful features/functionality) for musicians, then sell it at a premium......

Happy shopping, kids!

 

[jongitarz]

A 6 inch steel rule works just fine

 

[jbert]

I think the tool of choice for measuring string height above the frets is this:

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Measuring_tools/String_Action_Gauge.html

I have been using it for a while, and it is really much better than cumbersome feeler gauges or regular rulers that don't sit squarely on the top of the frets.

Just my opinion...

 

[PurpleSport]

I think the tool of choice for measuring string height above the frets is this:

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Measuring_tools/String_Action_Gauge.html

I have been using it for a while, and it is really much better than cumbersome feeler gauges or regular rulers that don't sit squarely on the top of the frets.

Just my opinion...

Now THAT'S a pretty spiffy piece........

Gotta love Jon's minimalist, old-school "lemme show you kids how a master does it" style, though!

 

[Glassmoon]

I just use a 6 inch machinist's ruler that has 32nds and 64ths. you can find em for a buck or 2 at your local autozone or similar, maybe even walmart. cool tool! err, tool's cool!

the neck on this MD is purty, nice mix of bird's eye and flamed maple. are they cross pollinating for hybrid maple trees nowadays? anyway, looks cool.

oh, and btw...didn't take long, I'm already used to the contour and love it!

 

[OrangeChannel]

I dig what you're sayin, orange. however, it is a cliche used too much over the last several years. by that I mean it really depends on a person's style...if the setup doesn't mesh with a person's style they may or may not end up fighting it all the way. that depends on their adaptability, but holds true most of the time. that being counter-productive, I don't think it's fair to say higher action=better tone. besides, look at shawn lane. his action was ridiculously low, but he got a much better tone than alot of the other shredders, imho. you have to go with your comfort and style.

anyway, just wanted to throw that out there after having endured the last 5 years of that statement. just one guy's opinion.

Not cliche my friend...fact. It has to do with the sweet spot of pickups.....I find most higher output pups sound better w/ higher action, even guys like JP agree but he does the low action thing since it is EASIER to play in live settings....