Off Topic NGD Sub 1

[sixstrings]

Too cheap to be true
Got this for under £200, very sweet for the money. Would never expect the quality to be this good for a budget instrument.
Locking tuners working just as good as schallers on reall Balls, also like the radius being somewhere between axis and silo. At least that's how it feels to me
Got a spare set of Evolutions that will go in it soon, any other pickup recommendations for poplar, guys?

 

[mystixboi1]

Nice. How about some Transitions? My fav pickup right now

 

[Tollywood]

I also love the Transitions. I just installed a Gravity Storm, and I love that, too. It sounds huge.

Congrats on a great price!

 

[edhalen]

Very nice! Great score. Looks like a beauty!

 

[Metropolis777]

Sounds about right on the price. Such an awesome steal. I love the illuminator I just put in my silo Floyd.

 

[Warg Master]

Those sub guitars are the best modifiable guitars ever. They play great, look great. And sound great with whatever you put in them. They are such a fantastic guitar at any price. They are second to me only to the jp guitars. I currently have a liquifire in the neck and an evolution in the bridge of mine.

 

[DrKev]

£200??!! Congratulations! That's a steal!! You should the prices in France. Nothing less than €450 and one store has one NOS and he's looking for €1200!

 

[Jack FFR1846]

Awesome deal. These are great guitars. The radius for a silo, Axis and sub 1 are all 10".

 

[sixstrings]

Nice. How about some Transitions? My fav pickup right now

Yeah, I was too thinking about transitions. But as for now they're not available second hand yet and a new set will cost close to what I paid for the guitar. Would like to avoid that in stage of just trying what will sound best

£200??!! Congratulations! That's a steal!! You should the prices in France. Nothing less than €450 and one store has one NOS and he's looking for €1200!

1200 euros is what I wouldn't pay even or a proper EBMM. Not saying they're not worth the money, just lots of great guitars around for much less
Looks like they're not yet familiar with the rule that the guitar is only worth what someone's willing to pay for it!

On other forum the guys were saying that Steve Morse's guitar is also made of poplar and I could try his pickups. What do think, right direction? I'm looking for fairly high output but also as versatile as possible.

 

[DrKev]

Yeah, I think €1200 was the French MSRP at the time (street price was way less). The last of the new stock to sell (a year or two after they stopped making them) were little more than half that price. Looking at completed eBay auctions in the US, they're still selling for US $400 - 450. On that basis, €400 would be about right in France - the UK is the place to buy 'em and France definitely is not!

 

[Tollywood]

Yeah, I was too thinking about transitions.

On other forum the guys were saying that Steve Morse's guitar is also made of poplar and I could try his pickups. What do think, right direction? I'm looking for fairly high output but also as versatile as possible.

Hi. If you go to the DiMarzio website, you can see each pickup's output and the levels of treble, middle and bass.
Maybe that will help you narrow it down? Good Luck!

 

[megaroel]

Nice find I really like the rose wood fingerboards on those guitars!!


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[Luc]

That's a GREAT guitar! congrats! FWIW I sold mine 6 years ago for 500 euros..hardtail with schaller locking tuners, dead mint, and that was a sharp price at the time..

 

[sixstrings]

Hell yeah, seems like the deal was really good considering what's everyone saying.
I hate selling on ebay, but buying there can get u a real bargain - just need a bit of patience!
BTW I tested the SUB recording a short YT clip, sounds superb even with stock pickups!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yjWrI7TdGY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[DrKev]

Nice video! And yes the stock pickups are fantastic!

 

[banjoplayer]

Very nice one. I´d love to have one too...

Got a spare set of Evolutions that will go in it soon, any other pickup recommendations for poplar, guys?

Morse Di Marzio pickups, as the Morse-Model is poplar too. You will a a very close Morse-type-guitar. The body-shape should be the same, the neckshape should be close. Well the bridge is not the same, but I bet it will sound beautiful

 

[sixstrings]

Nice find I really like the rose wood fingerboards on those guitars!!

Yeah, rosewood looks dark and rich, never seen one like it on a budget guitar before.

Morse Di Marzio pickups...

I've got it now with the Evo's, definitely more punch and definition, but surprisingly clean is where sound improved the most.
So happy with them atm, Steve's set will be next to try once I'll find a 2nd hand set for sale at a good price.

But what I wanted to do from a day one of owning it was to replace that cheap nut that was sitting there.
A single knock from a side only proved I was right - it immediately broke into three pieces:

What sits there now is a Graphtech TUSQ Black PT-5000-00, perfect tight fit, only 1min of sanding to the sides of it, and it looks much better in black:

 

[Mincer]

My SUB1 was a difficult one to find pickups for. My Silo Special sounds nice and open (different body wood), but the SUB1s have tons of mids, that some pickups just emphasize too much. I ended up putting a Duncan Jazz in the neck (which I hate in alder or ash) and Custom 5 in the bridge (which has a scooped sound). I added a Fender S1 switch for the volume to split the pickups, which works better than an push/pull pot. Now the guitar is much better for me.