OT: Microsoft to pay...

[AnthonyD]

Another slap on the wrist to the bully right here.

 

[Big Poppa]

breaks my heart

 

[WillPlay4Food]

Wow, how would you like to pay a $775Million fine? That's some serious cash! Imagine how many basses you could get for that amount of dough.

 

[tkarter]

What BP said


tk

 

[phatduckk]

ya know ... up untill about 2 months ago i was a huge microsoft fan. I always foudn Linux too clunky as a desktop but loved 'em as servers ... so I always picked MS over Linux for a desktop machine. but a little while ago on a whim I gave Mac a shot and and have loved the combo of Linux power (BSD actually) and a 100% usable UI.

 

[maddog]

ya know ... up untill about 2 months ago i was a huge microsoft fan. I always foudn Linux too clunky as a desktop but loved 'em as servers ... so I always picked MS over Linux for a desktop machine. but a little while ago on a whim I gave Mac a shot and and have loved the combo of Linux power (BSD actually) and a 100% usable UI.

Hey Phat,

Proud owner of a Mac for over a year now. After using Unix for years, I got so frustrated with Windows. Like you said, Linux was too clunky to warrant the switch. Finally, I bit the bullet and bought a Mac. The price tag was much easier since I knew I was getting OS X (BSD 4.0, real Unix!) . Been very happy ever since. Now I'm working on getting the lab at work to switch over to a Mac Cluster.

 

[Big Poppa]

imm on my new powerbook g4 tiger lovin it I cant imagine using anything other than a mac for music photos and general stuff it is so easy and doesnt crash doesnt get viruses and is so intuitive

 

[phatduckk]

imm on my new powerbook g4 tiger lovin it I cant imagine using anything other than a mac for music photos and general stuff it is so easy and doesnt crash doesnt get viruses and is so intuitive

im there with you BP.

i got a the cheapest powerbook available after my dell laptop decided to die on me. Im a software engineer and had a beefy PC at home to do work on but wanted something small for borwsing the web and donig email and other "non hardcore" stuff ... so i thought id give the mac a try and got hooked.

i just replaced my "workhorse" system at home with a Mac a few days ago. its great for multimedia stuff, super reliable and with the BSD core you can totally use it for writing software. its a win win ... its just better

to me Macs are like Tivo & EBMM products ... i rave about them whenever i get a chance.

fyi to you mac guys ... check out a free App called Quicksliver; i cant live without it. You can read a description of it here:
http://docs.blacktree.com/doku.php?id=quicksilver:what_is_quicksilver
and if it sounds cool to you download it here:
http://download.blacktree.com/download.php?id=com.blacktree.Quicksilver&type=dmg&new=yes

 

[maddog]

Si BP. I got sick of taking a 3GHz machine and then bogging it down with all the antivirus crap. Then you still had to worry about all the security holes. And then you still had to worry about spyware, etc.

Mac's make more than music, photo's and such easy. Networking, scientific computing, code development, etc is made easy as well. Wish they had a stronger market share to ensure their future. Don't know why they don't pull in more users now that they have sub $1000 machines on the market. The switch to Intel may hurt for the short term but should provide some great innovation later on down the road.

Enjoy your PB, BP. Is Tiger worth buying as an upgrade?

 

[phatduckk]

Is Tiger worth buying as an upgrade?

2 features on Tiger make it worth buying for me
1) Spotlight - super fast search of all the stuff on yoru machine
2) Dashboard - little useful widgets

check out the demos of the new stuff at:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/

but those 2 features are worth it for me. or if you have a buddy that wants to upgrade to tiger you can get the family pack which comes with 5 licences ... the price of the family pack / 2 is cheaper than a single copy plus u have a few more legal copies for other machines

 

[WillPlay4Food]

Hey, all you OS X users, try out my free Musical Scales program! It's at http://dtibs.home.comcast.net

Here's a screenshot:

I built my program for scale/chord practice but it turned out to be more of an intro to Objective-C/Cocoa programming.

The source code is also included in case you want to poke around and check it out (you'll have to install the developer tools that's on your OS X DVD).

I bought my first PowerBook in 2001 when OS X first came out. Figured all that *NIX goodness would go well with my CS classes. I was right and now I'm on my 2nd PowerBook and have a G5 iMac at home as well.

Anyway, let me know what you guys think of my program.

 

[tkarter]

Guess what? I am an Aople certified tech. I run school networks, all my servers are Linux. I like both. The Mac rules for the average user. No more problems and never hard to support.

I also support Windoze. Billy makes me more money than all the above.


tk

 

[SteveB]

Unconvinced

I dunno fellas, I haven't liked an Apple since the IIe. (For you kiddies, that was back in the days of the Motorola 6502 processor.) I got my start on an Apple II+ but the Bell & Howell clones had a nicer keyboard.

However, I have always liked the Motorola 6800 series (and its successors) better then Intel processors. Whoever thought of the "segment: offset" memory model that made DOS machines unable to access more than 640k without memory manager software was a real goofball.

But I digress into assembly language, processor instruction sets, and other highly ambient domains...

 

[Dees]

I'd love to work with a Mac, but I think they're too expensive for my taste. I don't like spending a lot of money on a computer. I've got Linux running on my computer at home (together wit windows XP), but I can't work with it very well, so I think I'll make the complete turnover to windows XP, just for practical reasons.

 

[0557]

Windows is like trying to dress up chopped liver, no matter how you try.
It still don't taste good.

 

[maddog]

I'd love to work with a Mac, but I think they're too expensive for my taste. I don't like spending a lot of money on a computer. I've got Linux running on my computer at home (together wit windows XP), but I can't work with it very well, so I think I'll make the complete turnover to windows XP, just for practical reasons.

Dees,

Have you considered the mac mini?

 

[Jazzbassman23]

I'd love to work with a Mac, but I think they're too expensive for my taste. I don't like spending a lot of money on a computer. I've got Linux running on my computer at home (together wit windows XP), but I can't work with it very well, so I think I'll make the complete turnover to windows XP, just for practical reasons.

That many consumers think Macs are too expensive, is something I've never really understood. The eMac is readily available anywhere for $795, and that includes everything most users need. I know you can buy a PC for $500 or so, but my time is worth money, and since Macs rarely fail, are easier to use, and almost never get viruses, it's a no brainer as far as I'm concerned.

Plus, Microsoft's arrogance towards the consumer and the government who's trying to protect the consumer is enough to make me eliminate all references to Microsoft except where absolutely necessary. And with Open Office, apparently I'll be able to completely clean house.