Raz
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Can I get the minimum distance from the string bottom to the pup ( neck and bridge) on a EBMM JP, I guess ideally whilst fretting at the 24th fret. Thanks!
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Raz
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Nobody? Is this perhaps something to not be concerned about? I heard that there has to be a min. distance or the pickups lose sustain...
Raz..I'm not sure what you are asking...If you are worried about the distance between your strings and the p/up, don't fret( 
) That's been carefully worked out by JP and the design team.
I have said this before....Don't worry too much about measurements. Go by what sounds and feels good to you.
) That's been carefully worked out by JP and the design team. I have said this before....Don't worry too much about measurements. Go by what sounds and feels good to you.
Raz
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I hear ya and trust me I believe you, I just wanted to make sure since the techjongitarz said:Raz..I'm not sure what you are asking...If you are worried about the distance between your strings and the p/up, don't fret(
I have said this before....Don't worry too much about measurements. Go by what sounds and feels good to you.
at the music store advised me that if the distance was too close. the pups would not sustain as well. Now I haven't touched the pups but I have dropped the action considerably since aquiring the Pet, it also seems that the neck angle is minimal if not non-existant. (He mentioned that it would also need adjusting). I just want to make sure that's all...Raz...You should be able to drop the string height without changing the neck angle. JP's strings are at about 1/32 at the 12th fret, and that is REALLY low, and there are no shims or changes in the neck angle on his axes. The pickups are not moved up or down either. Who knows your guitar better, JP and EB/MM or your tech? I rest my case.
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Raz
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That's all I need bro, that's the answer I was looking for. I know the tech is screwed but I'm having sound issues and I want to eliminate all possibilities...thanks!jongitarz said:Raz...You should be able to drop the string height without changing the neck angle. JP's strings are at about 1/32 at the 12th fret, and that is REALLY low, and there are no shims or changes in the neck angle on his axes. The pickups are not moved up or down either. Who knows your guitar better, JP and EB/MM or your tech? I rest my case.
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OH BTW who the heck is EM/MM...is that Eminem?
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SteveB
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Raz said:
I think the EM part is "El Muerte"....
Raz said:That's all I need bro, that's the answer I was looking for. I know the tech is screwed but I'm having sound issues and I want to eliminate all possibilities...thanks!
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OH BTW who the heck is EM/MM...is that Eminem?
I have no idea what you are talking about
fsmith
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jongitarz said:Who knows your guitar better, JP and EB/MM or your tech? I rest my case.
Raz, In case you missed the translation to Canadian, Jon wants to know, "who's your Daddy"...
Hey did you ever get that package?
have a good weekend,
fred
Raz
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Yes and sorry I meant to send you an email thanking you...what a swell laddy you are...thanks for those CD's bro. I only listened to the one Steve Morse...ahhhhhhh can you say CREAMfsmith said:Raz, In case you missed the translation to Canadian, Jon wants to know, "who's your Daddy"...
Hey did you ever get that package?
have a good weekend,
fred
Thanks bro!
Raz
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Wow we have something in commonjongitarz said:
Just Kidding (I threw this part in as a quick edit)
Raz
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I know it's the avatar that throws mejongitarz said:
jongitarz said:Raz...You should be able to drop the string height without changing the neck angle. JP's strings are at about 1/32 at the 12th fret, and that is REALLY low, and there are no shims or changes in the neck angle on his axes. The pickups are not moved up or down either. Who knows your guitar better, JP and EB/MM or your tech? I rest my case.
Ok Jon - this is EXACTLY the kind of info I've been looking for as well. At 1/32, does he still get clean piezo output with any kind of reasonable picking pressure? At that height, I'd have to BARELY pick (and I mean like blowing on the string) to avoid string buzz coming through the piezo while playing clean. That's the main reason why I still feel like I'm doing something wrong on the setup. I have to double that height to get clean output.
As you suggest, it's not really about measurements for me - but it is about getting the action as low as possible while still getting relatively clean piezo output. If JP can get clean output at that height, then either me or my JP still needs some tweaking.
MikeVt
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I would think JP's 1/32 on a inch action (.79 mm) would require an additional fret level and redress. But, of course, he has full-time techs for that sort of thing.
I've dealt with two different brand new JP's, and neither would accept that kind of action without some additional fretwork (granted, that's only two of them, so I can't be for sure that the average one wouldn't lower that far). But, then again, I don't know of many other guitars that wouldn't require this if you were going for that kind of action.
RR
I've dealt with two different brand new JP's, and neither would accept that kind of action without some additional fretwork (granted, that's only two of them, so I can't be for sure that the average one wouldn't lower that far). But, then again, I don't know of many other guitars that wouldn't require this if you were going for that kind of action.
RR
Raz
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Well like my sig says 1/16...too me that's like heaven set up base camp on my fretboard
Actually now that I think of it, I probably have less since I can't get a 1.5mm pic under my low E on my SUB 1 and my Pet has way lower action...
Actually now that I think of it, I probably have less since I can't get a 1.5mm pic under my low E on my SUB 1 and my Pet has way lower action...
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jongitarz said:
Yes - it is definitely fret buzz. I can hear and feel it pretty badly even unplugged. There is about a business card worth of relief in the neck when fretting the 12th and 2nd frets (as in the FAQ). I have found (through trial and error) that if I add more relief, I get serious buzzing at frets 7,8 and 9. If I reduce the relief, I need to raise the bridge or saddles to elminate buzzing everywhere. In the end, the minimum I seem to be able to get at the 12th fret is about 2/32.
I know 2/32 is EB spec and that's fine. I'm just wondering if I can get it any lower (or how JP does it).
MikeVt
