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wes23

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I'm really dissapointed in ernie balls/music man's inability to produce more finishes among their axis guitars. The EVH models had the most amazinf finishes. I don't understand why the axis have such a limited selection. copyright issues w/ the EVH models? not enough demand for the guitars?(minus eddies name...).

anyhow, what are your guys's thoughts on this? maybe im the only one bothered by this. axis VS EVH's colors...winner = EVH's.

for spending 1500 on a guitar, the buyer should have a right to choose more from what is offered.

do they release new colors every year?

thanks for reading my thoughts.
 

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more colors would be kick ass but even with current ones it is very hard to find them instock anywere music123.com has only trans blue and natural musiciansfriend has been out of them since early november id be more worried about stock before colors but colors are awsome i want to see more sparkle
 

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Color preferences are always tough to pleas all comers.

A couple of my favorite are no longer avail.

I think the Axis has more colors than some of the other models, including natural.
 

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I also wanted to add that color helps express your invidualism. So I believe its important to beable to provide many colors, looks at PRS guitars, jeez. but yes, its hard to please all. I guess this is all an indicator of how times are always changing. In the 80s, they had all those neon guitars, ect. 90s EVH models. now everything just seems so blain. A lack of expression. I guess it kinds of explains mainstreams music today. Some might argue that the electric guitar has been fully explored. anyways, its all fun.
 

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Aside from "artist" colors which only come on their respective instruments, the only 2 colors you can't get on an Axis are White and Translucent Teal.

24 out of 26 is a very wide selection. You have the same number of choices for the Albert Lee model.

The guitar with the next most options for colors is the Silhouette, which has 15 choices.

The Axis gets you 9 more... is that 9 louder? :D
 

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GWDavis28 said:
Dude, I see 24 different colors?? That seems like a pretty good varity to me.
http://www.ernieball.com/mmonline/color_chart/available.html
If you are talking about sparkle finishes, do a search Sterling went through that too many times.
Limited Edition colors are offered every year and they fall into the expression catagory I think.
Glenn |B)

I'm with Glenn. This doesn't even include the rosewood and annual Lt.Ed. models. There is a larger selection of Axis finishes available than for any other model as well. Other than white the only other colors available are specific to a single other model (PRB or MD for the Pet, Morse Blue and and Luke Blue). Plus the color pallette has evolved over the years and will most likely continue to as such.

Is there a color I may want that is not currently unavailable? Possibly. Should I expect a manufacturer to change their product line to conform to me? Probably not. If color is the only thing thing determining my choice of guitar, I can always find what I like somewhere.

If you're looking to individualize, you can always buy used and have the guitar refinished to your exact specs.

Nothing says individuality better than wanting an inimitable color to be made standard by a major manufacturer and openly available to the general public. Maybe if enough sui generous individuals get together and express their desire to be unique, they can collectively get the company to introduce that exclusive color choice that says I am We :rolleyes:
 
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I think it boils down to dollars and cents.

EBMM offers colors that sell. Colors that do not sell are replaced with new colors.

They are not a shop making one-off guitars for individuals, except for their signature artists. It's just not good for the long-term economics of a company to have to maintain vast paint inventories just in case somebody's one-of-a-kind guitar needs repainted some day down the road.

PRS may have more choices (I'm assuming you've done the leg work), but their comparable guitars are nearly twice the price of an EBMM.

Believe me, everyone around here has some color they'd love to see on an EBMM guitar! :) I believe their current product line gives the buyer over 65,000 unique combinations of choices (model, color, bridge type, pickup config. etc.) and that's stunning for a company the size of Music Man. They aren't F@nder, after all.. and that's just one more reason to love them! :)
 

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im not intending this to be a "troll" thread. I was just expressing my concern.

I think to be more specific, I would like to see some of the EVH model's colors. I really like the quilt top design that I see on so many EVH models. I've only seen a few axis models that had some nice quilt fnishes. Maybe in the near future they'll re-release some of those cool fnishes they hd done in the past(pink, purple, light blue, maybe a cool yellow finish?, mixed colors?).

btw, this is the ernie ball forum, so if anything I figure my voice would be heard here. Maybe there are a couple people browsing these forums that work for the company, ya never know.

thanks for reading.
 
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Actually, there are quite a few folks from EBMM who frequent this forum. Big Poppa (Sterling Ball) is one of them. This has been discussed many times before. If you use the search feature, you will see tons of posts on colors and why some are not available anymore.

Nice tops. There are plenty of beautiful tops on Axis. Check the picture sticky thread. You will see many Axis guitars with spectacular tops on them.

Again, it all boils down to supply and demand. IF the demand were great, the supply would be plentiful. Just because only 12 peeps (only an example and nothing more) want a pink Axis, does not justify EBMM stopping the factory for only 12 guitars. They just simply did not sell well. Big Poppa has to make money and pay for the labor generated. Obviously, he is VERY successful and knows what he is doing. :cool:
 

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yeah, ya never know...

Well you've heard from one and ya never know, Big Poppa, aka Sterling Ball, i.e. the CEO might just chime in with his .02...

and just for the record, those nice quilt tops are still available for the Axis line, and they still have the trans gold and blue to choose from.

chill out and enjoy the ride. and welcome to the best forum around.

fred

edit - sorry Koogs, you beat me to it...
 
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Wes if they dropped a color it's because it didn't sell so well. In the end EBMM is a company making money. Your voice will be heard, EBMM employee's not only surf here they post here on a regular basis.

I doubt that you'll see the Pink, Purple or Green colors return. If they didn't sell well in the first place then chances are that won't sell well again, it's all about business.

Though you never know what new colors might come up. Radiance Red was an LE color and it was so popular that it became a standard color.

Glenn |B)
 

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wes23 said:
I really like the quilt top design that I see on so many EVH models.

Sounds to me like you're mixing up the wood and colour issues.

You can specify the kind of top you want on an Axis (quilt/flame/luck of the draw) and they'll be just as nice as any EVH top you saw. But as for the colours, there are a pretty wide variety and EBMM does change them from time to time. Seems to me most of them (with the exception of pink, trans black, green, etc.) are still available, and there are a lot of ones that weren't available on the EVH.

So, which colours are they missing?
 

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wes23 said:
im not intending this to be a "troll" thread. I was just expressing my concern.

I think to be more specific, I would like to see some of the EVH model's colors. I really like the quilt top design that I see on so many EVH models. I've only seen a few axis models that had some nice quilt fnishes. Maybe in the near future they'll re-release some of those cool fnishes they hd done in the past(pink, purple, light blue, maybe a cool yellow finish?, mixed colors?).

btw, this is the ernie ball forum, so if anything I figure my voice would be heard here. Maybe there are a couple people browsing these forums that work for the company, ya never know.

thanks for reading.


You posted this same thread in August, though... twice :confused:

http://www.ernieball.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9460


http://www.ernieball.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9456


I understand that you haven't found any colors to your liking on the Axis guitars, but it seems to me that this has all been addressed before.
 
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wes23

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Sounds to me like you're mixing up the wood and colour issues.

You can specify the kind of top you want on an Axis (quilt/flame/luck of the draw) and they'll be just as nice as any EVH top you saw. But as for the colours, there are a pretty wide variety and EBMM does change them from time to time. Seems to me most of them (with the exception of pink, trans black, green, etc.) are still available, and there are a lot of ones that weren't available on the EVH.

So, which colours are they missing?



ya, I guess it would be the wood on top. I'm digging the quilt structured tops.

also, do the axis have fading issues? which colors might fade and which ones are less likely to?

Also, i went to the music man site, to the builder section. A lot of the colors were not working for the axis.

in the near future, i'll get a bunch of colors I see ans post them. hopefully you guys can help me with that the color names are called.

thanks
 
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