St_G

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Pulled out the pcb and put in 500k pots (SD "Smooth Turning", if you're curious).

I've actually only wired up the neck pickup so far, but when I went to check my work by plugging in and testing for signal, it devolved into over half an hour of noodling and wankery because HOLY CRAP YES.

Honeymoon period, to be sure, but really liking what I'm hearing so far. I can still get the 250k sounds by rolling down (to my ears about a third down, not half, but I don't remember enough about the specifics of logarithmic pots to say for certain) the tone knob, but now have access to honest-to-fictional-deity chime. And for someone whose tastes and style were irreparably formed by various jangle-pop bands, that's important.

I'm very curious to see if this cures the all-3-pickups setting of its "Strat with a head cold" problem. Will report back.
 

NickNihil

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Nice! Did you put the original pickups back in or are you still rocking something else?
 

St_G

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This is what I've got:

Neck: Fralin Firebird @7.5k
Middle: Lollar Firebird @7.6k
Bridge: DiMarzio Minibucker previously in the middle, theoretically a DP-168, whose output I've seen listed anywhere from 8.25k-12ish.

If I could remember where I left my multimeter, I'd check.

I've got everything set so the volume levels are actually pretty even across all 3, but there's definitely a big cut to the highs going into position 1. It's... remarkable.

As for the All-3 setting: it's better, but I'm not totally sold. I may re-wire for normal Strat (or Goldie) switching.



Nice! Did you put the original pickups back in or are you still rocking something else?
 

NickNihil

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It's starting to increasingly seem like the better option would be to go Strat wiring with an add bridge push pot. Someone else suggested that to me on another thread (you may have seen it) so I might get the bridge+neck position on the Goldie. That would also make available the all 3 position so all pickup options between the 2 guitars are covered. I might just pull out that circuit board and rewire the Goldie. Keeping the 250k pots, as that guitar is plenty bright.
 

St_G

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Yeah, it's a classic 7-sound Strat mod. Over the years, I've learned that there is such a thing as "too many" options for me, but I (obviously) understand the desire to tinker.

I find myself thinking about reversing the phase of my middle pickup, to turn the weaknesses (a bit of unwanted lower-mid woof) into a strength (filling out the bottom of am otherwise VERY thin sound). I did it by accident when I first installed the Fralin, and it was actually pretty cool.

Or maybe I'll just desolder one of the pickups from that setting (probably the bridge?). I don't know.

In any case, nothing I do from here can really really be called "de-mudding." The mud is gone. It's still wild to me that Annie Clark chose to pair such dark pickups with 250k pots. She must have be working with a VERY bright and fizzy rig at the time.
 

racerx

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Yeah, it's a classic 7-sound Strat mod. Over the years, I've learned that there is such a thing as "too many" options for me, but I (obviously) understand the desire to tinker.

Maybe you should look into getting a Synth or forty - might be able to occupy your time :p
 

St_G

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Ha! I actually have a little Novation Mininova collecting dust in my office. I'm an even worse keyboardist than guitarist.

Maybe you should look into getting a Synth or forty - might be able to occupy your time :p
 

St_G

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After some further experimentation, I believe I've settled on a group of five sounds that cover the most ground in a way that is pleasing to me*. Because EBMM trims unused tabs from their switches, and I don't have any other superswitches with that long-ass lever, I had to arrange things in an exceedingly unintuitive order, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

1. Bridge Minibucker (which is actually the old middle)
2: Middle Firebird
3: Neck Firebird
4: Split Middle Firebird + Split Bridge Minibucker**
5: Middle Firebird + Neck Firebird

If I can source a new switch, I'll redo things to have a more intuitive, Strat-like layout, but I'm very happy with the sounds. Finally, this masterfully built instrument has five sounds I actually want to use. It started with 1 1/2 (I really WANTED to like the all-3 setting, and with enough low shelving eq, I almost did).

*- this is at LEAST as idiosyncratic ast original. I'm not suggesting it's objectively better, just better for me.

**- this required using the fourth pole of the switch, which is excluded from the stock wiring, just because it had all of its contacts intact.
 

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After some further experimentation, I believe I've settled on a group of five sounds that cover the most ground in a way that is pleasing to me*. Because EBMM trims unused tabs from their switches, and I don't have any other superswitches with that long-ass lever, I had to arrange things in an exceedingly unintuitive order, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

1. Bridge Minibucker (which is actually the old middle)
2: Middle Firebird
3: Neck Firebird
4: Split Middle Firebird + Split Bridge Minibucker**
5: Middle Firebird + Neck Firebird

If I can source a new switch, I'll redo things to have a more intuitive, Strat-like layout, but I'm very happy with the sounds. Finally, this masterfully built instrument has five sounds I actually want to use. It started with 1 1/2 (I really WANTED to like the all-3 setting, and with enough low shelving eq, I almost did).

*- this is at LEAST as idiosyncratic ast original. I'm not suggesting it's objectively better, just better for me.

**- this required using the fourth pole of the switch, which is excluded from the stock wiring, just because it had all of its contacts intact.
So glad to hear that you’re happy with the results! I’d love to hear what it sounds like now, but I understand that’s probably hard to capture easily.

I have been enjoying my Goldie so much that the OG hasn’t come out of its case in a bit. I suspect it’s going to sound extra dark to my ears the next time I plug it in.
 
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