Sometimes The Grass Is Greener Right Where You Are...

[kissmyaxe]

I dont want to join on the fanboy wagon but there is a local shop in queens that carrys Suhr and although theyre nice they dont justify the price to me, I would honestly pay more for my silo spcial, WAY better necks and Way better bridge design, plus you have an original body/headstock design, if I want a strat body Ill buy a warmoth or something - guitars are subjective like music itself but I find the silo specials better no comparison -

I agree soooo much with this statement
Strat's are a cool body, can't deny it.
AL's and Silo's are no doubt a strat killer but still not a 'Strat' in most guitar players eye
the guitar has evolved for a very long time and with the renduncy of the factory made ones, why not spice it up and go for some thing like USA guitars or Warmoth, you can find a much more authentic vintage Strat tone(which we all know are hard to come by) if you can mess around with it yourself and not have to worry about "factory original".
I however don't need one with my Silo, but if I did I would go to USA guitars I imagine.

 

[bovinehost]

You skinny-string guys should talk to Tyler about "vintage tone" and EBMM guitars.

Jack

 

[beej]

And Tommy for that matter. Putting his 60s strat on the auction block in place of an Albert ... great move

 

[tommyindelaware]

it was a 56....

And Tommy for that matter. Putting his 60s strat on the auction block in place of an Albert ... great move

 

[beej]

I stand corrected sir. Now that's commitment!

 

[lock-ny]

it was a 56....

I might have kept that one actually

 

[robelinda2]

the AL does command the highest respect after all!

 

[kneeoh]

Interesting thread. I will gladly admit to being an EBMM fanboy . The only non-EBMM guitars I buy nowadays are types that Musicman doesn't make (e.g. semi-hollow or acoustics). For everything else, its Musicman all the way. I've found that if there's a particular tone I'm after, at least one of my Balls can do it so I no longer need any other brand.

A quick illustration: I recently had a momentary lapse of reason and bought a different brand of ubiquitous signature guitar (mahogony/maple cap). I had it for about four weeks and then sent it to my brother. While it was truly a wonderful sounding guitar, it just didn't feel right and the tone wasn't much different from my Morse.

If multiple guitar brands suit you, I say go for it. For me, all I need are my Balls.

 

[CudBucket]

I believe the manufacturer's responsibility is to give the consumer the absolute best/most they can at a reasonable price. What I discovered when I tried the Suhr was that while John does offer a fine instrument, my EBMMs are on par with Suhr-type guitars at a much more reasonable price. That's HUGE to me. While I'm lucky enough to make a good living, I have 3 kids, 2 houses to maintain, etc., etc. I usually get one major purchase a year unless I want to sell gear to get gear.

Think about what I just said...

In a world where I can pay almost $4 for a gallon of gas and video game consoles can cost $800, an Ernie Ball Music Man guitar is an unbelievable value. And when you consider, on top of that, that those in the know, have normally considered the EBMM line, a high-level pro quality brand of instrument right off the bat, you realize that the combination of quality and value is very, very rare today. Just consider EBMM's artist list.

I guess I'd always realized how much I like EBMMs because I've never sold one that I've bought. There was a loaded Petrucci that I bought and sold but only because I bought it at such a low price that my intention was to sell it for a profit. Once I'd done that, I took that money and ordered my Desert Gold Petrucci from Pete D. All three EBMMs that I bought for my self, one in 04, one in 05 and one in 06, are still with me.

There is only one other brand of guitar that this is true of. I have 3 of each. And to be perfectly honest, one of the reasons I haven't sold any of them (to fund other purchases) is because their re-sale values are not great so I'd take a huge hit (the other brand not the EBMMs). But to be fair to that brand too, I have to say, they're fine instruments as well.

As I said before, I know that my recent curiosity in other brands stems from the fact that I'm considering finding a number one axe that is not a sig. Four of the 6 guitars I own (not including my home built Egress) are sigs. I know it shouldn't matter but I suddenly feel the need to find something that I could really start to be associated with. So I know I'll be looking at a Silo real soon. I suppose I could modify one of my Pets or my Luke to dial it in but I just don't want to alter that Artist's vision of the ultimate instrument.

Anyway, I'm on a caffeine induced ramble this morning and I'm going to stop.

Poppa, thanks for the PMs yesterday. You're right, I need to post more and be around more often.

Jon, I'm probably going to call CS soon and send my DG Pet in to you for a fret level. You did my PRB Pet and my DG just doesn't play quite as well as the one you levelled.

Thanks guys.

Dave

 

[Big Poppa]

Thanks Dave.

Try a Les Paul......


I say that in jest because that is a sig guitar that if you but a gun to most kids heads they think it is a made up name. THe LP has transcended the whole sig deal. You know that most people that I meet didnt believe there was an Ernie Ball either

I think the EVH/Axis has come close and recently with the addition of some of the young guns we are getting there. Play what brings out the best and dont waste brain power and resources on it. If it aint broke dont fix it.

Since you have 3 pets and you are planning to get another guitar try a different one.....you could be the rob of the northeast!

 

[matty]

"Try a Les Paul......"

Yes, I own a Les Paul and the comparison between the two makes is absolutely night and day. I admit I find the LP fun to play but I can only compare it to have owned both a 67 Triumph TR4 and a new Mini in that the improvement in performance and handling is drastic. That's how I feel when I switch between the LP and my Silhouette Special. The LP has bad under-steer and clunky suspension. The Sil Sp is nimble and fast.

Not sure if this makes sense....kids up too early and no coffee yet.

 

[Big Poppa]

I wasnt bashing the Les Paul....I have nothing but respect for it. I was saying that it has achieved the ultimate accolade It has transended Sig guitar status...

 

[matty]

HI BP-

I understood your post. Your mention of a Les Paul got me thinking on what a remarkable difference in finish and feel there is between the two makes.

Matt

 

[Lew]

I dont want to join on the fanboy wagon but there is a local shop in queens that carrys Suhr and although theyre nice they dont justify the price to me, I would honestly pay more for my silo spcial, WAY better necks and Way better bridge design, plus you have an original body/headstock design, if I want a strat body Ill buy a warmoth or something - guitars are subjective like music itself but I find the silo specials better no comparison -

I must respectfully challenge a few opinions you have I do not mean to belittle you in anyway I just wish to share my thought process and understand yours;

I prefer the vintage tones on the s and the modern on the mm(bear in mind I have not yet played an AL).
I prefer the neck width on the s and the back shape on the mm,the heavy frets on the S and the 4+2 headstock on the mm.
I could go on all day with this line of thought (and thats just two models im thinking of as I write this).

Musicman guitars have 5 types of bridges used and Suhr have 6 + so saying mm have a better design is very uninformed how on earth can you compare so many different variables and options with the word better?
Perhaps providing the models you compared would help you get across what you are trying to better?

 

[Big Poppa]

lew I think he was expressing his opinion. I think that he likes our inhouse designed and built trem system

Im the first to say that choices are great...I love it when he loves what we do.....

you should play the albert lee it sounds like it was made for you..(.Lew doesnt look as good as ALbert Lee on the headstock........)

 

[beej]

Lew doesnt look as good as ALbert Lee on the headstock........

With a bit of marker ... that could easly read "Albert Lew" ...

 

[Lew]

ahahah saw an AL at a london guitar show about 7-8 years ago iirc when I was at college.
I loved the body shape it screamed the jetsons at me
talking of choices maybe I should have spent my college loan on that instead of beer and potnoodles.I was playing Eggle guitars at the time.

The Albert Lew sounds great

 

[Warg Master]

<Place the typical fanboy praise and agreeable reply here>


oh yeah!

 

[lock-ny]

I must respectfully challenge a few opinions you have I do not mean to belittle you in anyway I just wish to share my thought process and understand yours;

I prefer the vintage tones on the s and the modern on the mm(bear in mind I have not yet played an AL).
I prefer the neck width on the s and the back shape on the mm,the heavy frets on the S and the 4+2 headstock on the mm.
I could go on all day with this line of thought (and thats just two models im thinking of as I write this).

Musicman guitars have 5 types of bridges used and Suhr have 6 + so saying mm have a better design is very uninformed how on earth can you compare so many different variables and options with the word better?
Perhaps providing the models you compared would help you get across what you are trying to better?

Lew like I said in my post that Guitars are subjective, the Suhrs I played were at Music Zoo in Queens were all superstrat types, and they had vintage style trems, as for the necks they were wider than I like, the only thing I felt that I like as good as a MM neck were really old strats and teles, here and there I come across other necks that I like as well, but the strat copy Suhrs i played didnt do anythng 3,000 dollars special for me, thas all I was saying -

 

[CudBucket]

Try a Les Paul......

Haha. That was my only, and main guitar for about 8 years back when I was a wee one. Can't play those anymore.

Play what brings out the best and dont waste brain power and resources

You're a wise man Sterling.