Still not sold on a Silo, need some forum help!!

[charlie7]

Still not decided if I could deal with the tremolo, since it is not floating. Ideally I would like a Wilkinson style, but still not sure. I am used to the Edge Pro that Ibanez has designed and of course the Petrucci trem.

I know the radius is different from Silo to JP, but can someone describe to me the neck shape.

The JP was very "D" shaped. How is the Silo?

 

[charlie7]

well the thing is I play a lot of satriani and vai and as you know they have a lot of trem work. I also incorporate some flutters as key parts of some of my own stuff.

If I could get a Silo with a floating bridge, that would be more ideal to my liking.

 

[robelinda2]

Check out Lukather, he does all that stuff with his Luke that has the normal EBMM trem, set to float, it does the job as good if not better, remember he was a floyd man previously.

 

[charlie7]

Check out Lukather, he does all that stuff with his Luke that has the normal EBMM trem, set to float, it does the job as good if not better, remember he was a floyd man previously.

are you recommending the luke or just saying to pay attention to his trem?

 

[charlie7]

ok, I am watching some on you tube. Is his bridge angled up or is it even?

 

[charlie7]

interesting.

Cause right now I am debating a Silo vs JS1200

 

[DrBob]

I've had the vintage style trem on my Albert Lee set up to float (angled forward) and it works brilliantly.

I think that I'm right in saying that with the possible exception of the bridge saddles (The Albert has vintage style folded saddles, the Silo may have the more modern type) that the trem on the Albert is the same as the one on the Silo.
And in combination with the locking tuners the tuning stability is remarkably good.
Even after some fairly brutal pull ups

 

[whitestrat]

interesting.

Cause right now I am debating a Silo vs JS1200

Wow... tough choice man... Both are great guitars, but very different... I like the 22 fret option on the JS, and the PAF Joe in there sounds huge. But it's basswood, and hence you'd never get the same tone off the neck of the Silo, which is Alder. I plonked a PAF Joe into the neck position of my 20th, and while it's nice, it's different. Also, I like the Silo's 24 fret option. It's really good for high note access. Those 2 extra tone controls on the JS (high pass filter and coil tap) can be replicated on the silo if need be.)

Regarding the trem, I hate the floyds so the best thing for me is the standard trem on the silos...

Personally, I'd get the Silo... Mainly because it's not a siggy model and for EBMM's construction quality, consistency and customer service...

 

[charlie7]

Wow... tough choice man... Both are great guitars, but very different... I like the 22 fret option on the JS, and the PAF Joe in there sounds huge. But it's basswood, and hence you'd never get the same tone off the neck of the Silo, which is Alder. I plonked a PAF Joe into the neck position of my 20th, and while it's nice, it's different. Also, I like the Silo's 24 fret option. It's really good for high note access. Those 2 extra tone controls on the JS (high pass filter and coil tap) can be replicated on the silo if need be.)

Regarding the trem, I hate the floyds so the best thing for me is the standard trem on the silos...

Personally, I'd get the Silo... Mainly because it's not a siggy model and for EBMM's construction quality, consistency and customer service...

You know whitestrat, you and I are on the same page here.

I have looked at some of the prestige s series from ibanez and thy have a cool new trem with no knife edges, but that s body is too thin for me. And I like the more contoured smooth body, which is why I am looking at the JS & Silo. I used to own a ebjpm, my bass player had a bongo 5(it got stolen ) and when I worked for Guitar Center I did notice the quality and consistency of the Music Man. Their fretwork for a production guitar is second to none., IMO.

I have never been a fan of the pickguard, but this is not really a huge issue. I prefer a HH setup, but HSH I can live with as it will just give me a little more versatility. I know the neck is not as flat, but from the opinions across the board here it should not be a problem, I love EB necks. I have played on a JP/Luke and both felt great.

Biggest thing for me is this trem. I don't use the trem excessively like Vai, cause he basically beats his up , but a couple of my songs do require bar flutters and the satrinani, vai, timmons that I cover require some trem work as well.

Everything seems to be there except for the trem. Such a tough decision.

 

[DrKev]

Seriously, the trem is fantastic and will happily handle everything you need. The answer is the silo, you just don't quite realise it yet.

 

[charlie7]

Seriously, the trem is fantastic and will happily handle everything you need. The answer is the silo, you just don't quite realise it yet.

yeah, I guess its tough since I have not found a local guitar store that has one to play on.

Now I know they have DiMarzio PAF Pro's in the bridge and neck, which I can tinker with and upgrade if need be.

The Silo is EB's version of a strat or so I have heard. For the overdistorted tones that Satriani gets, I am assuming I can achieve this with my Silo, provided I have the right amp setup.

Again sorry for some of these dumb questions, but choosing the right guitar is very important to me and without plugging one in, I have to rely on word of mouth here.

 

[Sweat]

The MM trem is great, like has been said can be set up to float, which is not my cup of tea but everyone is different, my next MM is going to be a Silo Special, just looking for a killer deal onone, plus if you buy it through MF or GC and do not like it you can always return it since their return policy is good or at the minimum resell it, most of the time not hard to resell a EBMM.

 

[marantz1300]

I have a strat ,ibanez s540 custom and a silo.The silo trem kills both the strat trem and floyd rose. Bends up and down AND STAYS IN TUNE. Mines an old 89 with a made in west germany schaller with roller saddles.

 

[charlie7]

I have a strat ,ibanez s540 custom and a silo.The silo trem kills both the strat trem and floyd rose. Bends up and down AND STAYS IN TUNE. Mines an old 89 with a made in west germany schaller with roller saddles.

it looks like it has been routed though? You say it is a schaller bridge?

 

[ShaneV]

Hey Charlie, been following your threads, and in all of them you mention different features you like about the JP, that you hope the silo will have, what's keeping you from going with a JP?

 

[charlie7]

Hey Charlie, been following your threads, and in all of them you mention different features you like about the JP, that you hope the silo will have, what's keeping you from going with a JP?

2 things.

1. Price. Cause prices have gone up lately. I bought my lava pearl match headstock w/pieze for $1250. Now that guitar minus the piezo is $1400+

2. Pickups. The neck is the same pickup, but I am not sure how much different the D Sonic is, i heard it was for more metal playing. My stuff is more Satriani, Timmons Petrucci solo album than straight metal. If I didn't like the D Sonic, I would not know how to get my hands on the old EBJPM bridge pickup.

 

[ShaneV]

2 things.

1. Price. Cause prices have gone up lately. I bought my lava pearl match headstock w/pieze for $1250. Now that guitar minus the piezo is $1400+

2. Pickups. The neck is the same pickup, but I am not sure how much different the D Sonic is, i heard it was for more metal playing. My stuff is more Satriani, Timmons Petrucci solo album than straight metal. If I didn't like the D Sonic, I would not know how to get my hands on the old EBJPM bridge pickup.

I believe the old pickup was just a steve's special, don't quote me on that though. I was pleasantly surprised by how much I liked the D sonic.

I hear you on the price problem though

 

[charlie7]

I believe the old pickup was just a steve's special, don't quote me on that though. I was pleasantly surprised by how much I liked the D sonic.

I hear you on the price problem though

Well now you have me wanting my JP back...haha

Can you tell me a little bit more detail on the characteristics of the DSonic? my rig was simple I ran my JP through a boogie nomad 2x12, boss dd2 in the effect loop. More of a modern rig I guess. You definitely have me revisiting the idea of ordering a JP. It would just suck to pay more for the same guitar minus the trem when I got it cheaper with trem a while back.

 

[ShaneV]

Well now you have me wanting my JP back...haha

Can you tell me a little bit more detail on the characteristics of the DSonic? my rig was simple I ran my JP through a boogie nomad 2x12, boss dd2 in the effect loop. More of a modern rig I guess. You definitely have me revisiting the idea of ordering a JP. It would just suck to pay more for the same guitar minus the trem when I got it cheaper with trem a while back.

I found the D sonic to have amazing clarity and decent midrange bite, much more of a classic rock sound than I expected, not boomy and 'nu-metal' ish. I didn't get a chance to play the D-sonic with my usual gear, so i can't give a super great review (hopefully some new JP owners can come by to do that), but I definitely got the impression that I could jive with the D sonic.

 

[charlie7]

I found the D sonic to have amazing clarity and decent midrange bite, much more of a classic rock sound than I expected, not boomy and 'nu-metal' ish. I didn't get a chance to play the D-sonic with my usual gear, so i can't give a super great review (hopefully some new JP owners can come by to do that), but I definitely got the impression that I could jive with the D sonic.

ok cool. I was just afraid of them going the "heavy" route on this pickup. The metal strip reminds me of the old X2N's and boy did I hate that pickup.