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alen655321

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Hello everyone! I am new to this community and am close to becoming a member of the Ernie Ball family. I would just love some opinions in helping me decide which guitar to get.

I have recently seen come across a brand new 20th century silhouette, and a piezo equipped jp6. Help convince me to get either one of these guitars. The only disadvantage I see with the silo is that it doesn't come equipped with a piezo.

I am mainly looking for versatility, although I do happen to mainly play rock, and am influenced by paul gilbert, satriani, vai, petrucci, and malmsteen. Basically something that would be great for shredding, with the occasional rhythm.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Hello everyone! I am new to this community and am close to becoming a member of the Ernie Ball family. I would just love some opinions in helping me decide which guitar to get.

I have recently seen come across a brand new 20th century silhouette, and a piezo equipped jp6. Help convince me to get either one of these guitars. The only disadvantage I see with the silo is that it doesn't come equipped with a piezo.

I am mainly looking for versatility, although I do happen to mainly play rock, and am influenced by paul gilbert, satriani, vai, petrucci, and malmsteen. Basically something that would be great for shredding, with the occasional rhythm.

Thanks in advance!

I have both... and I believe I can offer a constructive light to this...

If you want the guitar for what you mentioned, then honestly, both guitars are more than adequate to handle the job.

BUT, I tend to find the JP6 more like a weapon... Yes, the piezo is a great help, but to be honest, while I do use it a lot in my band, I wouldn't trade the worl's best piezo system for a 20th. There's something about that wood combination and playability of the 20th that just rocks my boat. I use the JP6 mainly for heavier songs and blistering solos (not that I can do them, more like my fingers get the blisters), and the 20th is meant for my everyday go to guitar.

I find the Jp6 not as comfortable to use for extended gigs, as the neck is rather tiring for me for chords. But I could play forever on a 20th... But solos and appregios on the JP6 are easier, due to the thin neck and flat fretboard radius, but I find the tone a bit sterile due to basswood though that's actually what I like about it. It's a very specific axe for me, and I only use it for certain purposes...

OR you could get a JP6BFR fully loaded?:D
 
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Personally, I prefer the 20th, but it all depends upon your playing style. I would say the JP is more of a shredders guitar. The JP would also fit a more hard rock/metal style. I play more classic rock/blues/jam stuff, so the 20th fits my sytle really really well.

Honestly though, you can't go wrong with either one.
 

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tough decision.
I'd go for the 20th as there are only so many of them.
You can always get a Petrucci later.
However, as it was mentioned, I think a BFR Petrucci would be the best of both worlds!
 

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Hey thanks for all the suggestions. So basically the way I understand it is that the jp6 neck is meant more for shredding while the silo is good for more of the classic rock stuff. What makes the BFR the best of both worlds? Is it because of the wood that is used? At this point the only thing that is making me second guess the 20th anniv. silo is that it has no piezo. It just seems the jp6 comes with more features at around the same price as the 20th silo.

Oh ya one more thing, are the BFR necks all painted? Because I have problems with painted necks as they tend to get sticky after a while.

Thanks again for all your input help:)
 

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Oh ya one more thing, are the BFR necks all painted? Because I have problems with painted necks as they tend to get sticky after a while.

Thanks again for all your input help:)

Sounds like you might need to go for the 20th then..

Course I'm not biased...;)


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Hey thanks for all the suggestions. So basically the way I understand it is that the jp6 neck is meant more for shredding while the silo is good for more of the classic rock stuff. What makes the BFR the best of both worlds? Is it because of the wood that is used? At this point the only thing that is making me second guess the 20th anniv. silo is that it has no piezo. It just seems the jp6 comes with more features at around the same price as the 20th silo.

Oh ya one more thing, are the BFR necks all painted? Because I have problems with painted necks as they tend to get sticky after a while.

Thanks again for all your input help:)

Theres has been several threads on this painted neck topic on the BFR,S and to be quite honest it doent make muchh of a difference to be honest.ive played both and they might feel abit different but it wont affect your playing;)

heck if its good enough for JP himself then its good enough for me!:)
 

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Hey thanks for all the suggestions. So basically the way I understand it is that the jp6 neck is meant more for shredding while the silo is good for more of the classic rock stuff. What makes the BFR the best of both worlds? Is it because of the wood that is used? At this point the only thing that is making me second guess the 20th anniv. silo is that it has no piezo. It just seems the jp6 comes with more features at around the same price as the 20th silo.

Oh ya one more thing, are the BFR necks all painted? Because I have problems with painted necks as they tend to get sticky after a while.

Thanks again for all your input help:)

The JP neck is thin and wide, plus you sound like you really want a piezo so it sounds like the JP is for you.

As for the BFR neck, on the JP model BFR it is finished, on other BFR mdels it is the same oil and wax as the standard guitars.

Either way you will be getting a great guitar.
 

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No one has brought this up (that I've seen) but it is important to note that the 20th was available with the piezo. Granted it isn't as easy to track one down as it is to just get a JP, but that's another option.
 

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No one has brought this up (that I've seen) but it is important to note that the 20th was available with the piezo. Granted it isn't as easy to track one down as it is to just get a JP, but that's another option.

ok... one needs to rememeber that there were only 39 piezo 20ths made...

I have one...:D
 

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Hey thanks for all the suggestions. So basically the way I understand it is that the jp6 neck is meant more for shredding while the silo is good for more of the classic rock stuff. What makes the BFR the best of both worlds? Is it because of the wood that is used? At this point the only thing that is making me second guess the 20th anniv. silo is that it has no piezo. It just seems the jp6 comes with more features at around the same price as the 20th silo.

Oh ya one more thing, are the BFR necks all painted? Because I have problems with painted necks as they tend to get sticky after a while.

Thanks again for all your input help:)

Only the BFR JP has a painted neck... If that's a problem, you could always use very fine sandpaper on it...:D Not recommended, but possible...:p
 

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The radius on each guitar neck is different as well. JP is flatter. You need to play both and see which you prefer.
 

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I have owned both. I presently have more than one 20th. I am looking to pick up a JP again. They are both fabulous guitars. You really can't go wrong with either one.
 

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I have both. I also have a BFR JP6. I think they're all great! What I can tell you is that I'm not really in the market for either another JP6 or another BFR JP6, but I would love another 20th Anniversary Silo--with piezo this time. I think that BP is right when he says that he believes that the 20th Anniversary Silo is the best-sounding guitar that they have ever made. On a related note, a BFR Silhouette Special with piezo might just be my ultimate guitar.
 
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Hi alen655321,

Before stop my choice on the 20th Silo. I always dream of a Petrucci model because of the ergonomics way they were bild, their fast neck, the wammy bar and the piezo system. Someday, I go to my music store to try both of them. But the 20th Silo sound much richer and warm for me, and the neck is great too, that made me purchase one.

One year later, I order a BFR F1 which is a JP6 with the wood choice of the 20th silo. So, with a warmer and richier sound.

20th Silo were limited edition and hard to find today. If you find one, don't lose your chance. You'll never regret it.

p.s. if you think you're gonna make big bombs with the wammy bar, go for the JP6.

Good luck!!!!!!!!
 

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Two different horses. If you can get a 20th - do it. Hard to find. JP's are production models. Besides, one ends up being two or five or ten 'cause the gang builds the best. Try an Axis also, compound radius neck. My personal fave.
 

alen655321

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Thanks for all the input you guys. I think I am leaning more towards the JP6, possibly might look at the BFR as well, due to all the praise over it. Though I have to try it out in person to see if the painted neck on that guitar bothers me. They seem to be beautiful guitars, well all except for the petrucci inlays. I'm not particularly fond of them.
 
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