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adouglas

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I know that some out there are not and have never been in a gigging band.

My current band had its first gig last Saturday. It's been quite a while since I gigged, and it reminded me of what it's really like.

Before I say anything further, despite what it sounds like IT'S WORTH IT. This is really, really big fun.

So for what it's worth to those who haven't had the pleasure...picture this.

- You do your best to sleep late and/or take a nap Saturday afternoon so you'll still be conscious at the end of the gig. Good luck with that.

- In late afternoon you head to the practice space and haul anywhere from a quarter to a half-ton of gear out of the basement and load it into your vehicle. You pray you haven't forgotten anything. Then you go eat if you can manage it, because you won't have time later on.

- You head to the venue to scope it out and then wait around, chewing your nails and still worrying about having forgotten something important, until they let you bring your gear in. If it's a bar/restaurant where people are eating near the stage, you might get an hour to get everything out of your vehicle, hauled into the venue and set up before you're expected to be ready to play.

- You hump like crazy to do this, working as fast as humanly possible and probably forgoing any sort of sound check for lack of time. Along the way you need to change out of your work clothes and into whatever you're wearing for the gig.

- You play two or three sets that can't be beat, giving it your all, jumping around like crazy and having a terrific time, utterly exhausting yourself.

- At 2 am the bar closes. You're drenched in sweat, you're nursing blisters and you're about to collapse from exhaustion. After uttering the traditional "Where are the roadies?" line, you get to reverse the whole process, tearing down that same quarter- to half-ton of gear, carting it back outside and loading it into your vehicle. You pray you haven't forgotten anything. By the end of it all you're thinking you should call George Romero because you KNOW you'd make the perfect zombie.

- You're home by 4 am. Your spouse may very well be pissed off at you for being so late. Deal with it.

- The next day you feel like you've been in a rugby match, even if you weren't drinking the night before.

- You smile quietly to yourself all day long because it was SO MUCH FUN!!!

- At some point you take all that gear back to the practice space and haul it back into the basement.
 

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Really?

I usually drink beer all day before the gig since I will be too busy playing to drink.

tk
 

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I don't get paid to play. I get paid to haul gear to and from gigs. And, I never worry about forgetting something--it's in the gigbag because it's always in the gigbag.

It's more fun than my day job so I don't usually complain about it.
 
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PeteDuBaldo

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We move close to 1 ton of equipment if not more, and it is still fun! Usually we meet up to pack the gear up around 6:30pm, and follow up the gig with a stop at the diner after we unload all the gear at 3am. Typically I'm home around 4:30am, and as I am just coming off my stage-high with a full belly and ringing ears, an 80lb pitbull greets me, who really wants to get out of the house to go do his thing.
 

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I don't get paid to play. I get paid to haul gear to and from gigs. And, I never worry about forgetting something--it's in the gigbag because it's always in the gigbag.

It's more fun than my day job so I don't usually complain about it.

Sounds like you've got roadies.

Who deals with your PA, lights, amps, cables, music stands, and the 1001 other bits and pieces?
 

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And every venue is different - particularly when it comes to sound. You get everything dialed in during sound check, only to have the gitard (oops, did I say that out loud?) turn up his volume and start a chain reaction. Vocals feedback, you can't hear the keys, and you trust everyone is right where they should be. Then you look out at the crowd and you know all is right in the world.

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We move close to 1 ton of equipment if not more, and it is still fun!

I don't envy you. How big is your band? We've got a five-piece.

Hauling so much stuff is one reason why I invested in that Bose gear. Nothing weighs more than 40 lbs.

My Honda Fit, with a Thule pod on top, carries:

- All of our amplification (the equivalent of all backline amps, PA and monitors)
- All power cords and other cables
- All mic and guitar stands
- Two basses
- The "miscellaneous" tote (gaffer's tape, etc.)

And I've got room for a passenger.

Drums, lights, guitars and keyboard ride in another vehicle.
 

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I don't envy you. How big is your band? We've got a five-piece.

Hauling so much stuff is one reason why I invested in that Bose gear. Nothing weighs more than 40 lbs.

My Honda Fit, with a Thule pod on top, carries:

- All of our amplification (the equivalent of all backline amps, PA and monitors)
- All power cords and other cables
- All mic and guitar stands
- Two basses
- The "miscellaneous" tote (gaffer's tape, etc.)

And I've got room for a passenger.

Drums, lights, guitars and keyboard ride in another vehicle.

We have a 5 piece band, also.
2 subwoofers, 2 mains, 5 monitors, 300lb+ rackmount (mixer and poweramps)
5pc drum kit plus cymbals and floor mounted fan
2 bass cabs, 1 rackmount bass amp, 2 basses
2 guitar combo amps, fx board, 2 guitars
1 guitar cab, 1 guitar head, 1 backpack w/ footswitches, 2 more guitars
6 milk crates filled with enough cables and microphones for 4 vocal channels
1 bag-o-junk with no handles that holds mic stands, guitar stands, speaker stands, banner, tape, bungee cords, etc
2 hand trucks

Fits into one F-150 w/ cab and one F-250

I would love to be able to bring less gear, but I look at it as part of the fun.
 

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I enjoyed touring more than gigging. The crew did load in at 2:00, band guys show up at 5:00 for sound check, dinner at 6:00, show at 9:00, load out after the show, back on the bus, ride 400 to 600 miles, check in to hotel, repeat. The times and distances changed but it was basically the same routine, except for fly dates and Europe. My last two years out I did right at 300 dates a year, that's actual shows, not counting travel days. I'm too old for that now and I don't have to. :D

But after 22 years of touring, gigging around the region and sleeping in my own bed ain't bad either. :D I think I have a pretty good idea of what gigging is like.

Glad you had fun AD.
 

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I know that some out there are not and have never been in a gigging band.

My current band had its first gig last Saturday. It's been quite a while since I gigged, and it reminded me of what it's really like.

Before I say anything further, despite what it sounds like IT'S WORTH IT. This is really, really big fun.

So for what it's worth to those who haven't had the pleasure...picture this.

- You do your best to sleep late and/or take a nap Saturday afternoon so you'll still be conscious at the end of the gig. Good luck with that.

- In late afternoon you head to the practice space and haul anywhere from a quarter to a half-ton of gear out of the basement and load it into your vehicle. You pray you haven't forgotten anything. Then you go eat if you can manage it, because you won't have time later on.

- You head to the venue to scope it out and then wait around, chewing your nails and still worrying about having forgotten something important, until they let you bring your gear in. If it's a bar/restaurant where people are eating near the stage, you might get an hour to get everything out of your vehicle, hauled into the venue and set up before you're expected to be ready to play.

- You hump like crazy to do this, working as fast as humanly possible and probably forgoing any sort of sound check for lack of time. Along the way you need to change out of your work clothes and into whatever you're wearing for the gig.

- You play two or three sets that can't be beat, giving it your all, jumping around like crazy and having a terrific time, utterly exhausting yourself.

- At 2 am the bar closes. You're drenched in sweat, you're nursing blisters and you're about to collapse from exhaustion. After uttering the traditional "Where are the roadies?" line, you get to reverse the whole process, tearing down that same quarter- to half-ton of gear, carting it back outside and loading it into your vehicle. You pray you haven't forgotten anything. By the end of it all you're thinking you should call George Romero because you KNOW you'd make the perfect zombie.

- You're home by 4 am. Your spouse may very well be pissed off at you for being so late. Deal with it.

- The next day you feel like you've been in a rugby match, even if you weren't drinking the night before.

- You smile quietly to yourself all day long because it was SO MUCH FUN!!!

- At some point you take all that gear back to the practice space and haul it back into the basement.



haha, that sounds so much like a One Slack Mind show:D I tell ya nothing beats playing live, we don't make much but being able to play our own music in front a crowd show after show is just awesome!!

Also becasue rooms sound different it really is a test for dialing in your sound, that is where the Bongo shines through becasue no matter where we are playing I always get an awesome tone out of it:D:D Oh, and being sponsored by Jager helps, it's cool having our little contests at the end of the night, it really adds to the whole experience.
 

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When I did the corporate gig thing back in the late 1990's it was great fun. The band was tight and we'd get to fly to San Jose and Phoenix to do gigs. Plus I'd still get paid my salary and we'd get a yearly stipend and bonus. Those were the good old days!

I've been with my current band for nearly 7 years. At 47 I do feel that I'm getting too old for this but love it too much to stop. We do a lot of private parties and play the occasional club gig here in town. An example of our gig in Houston last month:

Meet at the storage facility where we keep the equipment, Noon.
Load up and hit the road for Houston, 1 p.m.
Arrive at the Houstonian (after eating lunch on the road), 4:30
Load in equipment, set up, soundcheck, 4:30 - 6:30
Relax and get dressed, ect. 6:30 - 8:00
First dance at wedding, 8:00
Start playing after dinner, 9:15 ending at midnight. (2 breaks)
Load out, 12 a.m. - 1:30 a.m.
Hit the road, 1:30 a.m.
Eat at Arby's in Waller, 2:30 a.m.
Arrive at the storage facility for load out, 5 a.m.
Get home at 6 a.m.

We travel in a nice Chevy Suburban and haul a 6 x 12 trailer. It's a 6 piece band and the travel is fun. Lots of great road stories. Plus, the $300 I made buys a lot of groceries! It also helps that my wife and family are totally supportive.
 

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1 bag-o-junk with no handles that holds mic stands, guitar stands, speaker stands, banner, tape, bungee cords, etc

That's the prize winner right there! Why does every band have to have some variation of the above? In my case it is the "bag" for all the drum hardware, nearly impossible to carry by oneself, and pointless to try on two haha
 

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I enjoyed touring more than gigging. The crew did load in at 2:00, band guys show up at 5:00 for sound check, dinner at 6:00, show at 9:00, load out after the show, back on the bus, ride 400 to 600 miles, check in to hotel, repeat. The times and distances changed but it was basically the same routine, except for fly dates and Europe. My last two years out I did right at 300 dates a year, that's actual shows, not counting travel days. I'm too old for that now and I don't have to. :D

Wow Chuck.

Rock star, trophy husband, and bass model. What a life you lead. :D

tbone
 

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Well, it was more like sideman for country artists, not near as glamorous as a rock star. But I did have a cowboy boot endorsement! :D

Howard Bellamy of the Bellamy Brothers was asked in an interview right before I left "When did this tour start?" Howard said, "In 1971". They were road dogs for sure. :D
 

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I don't missing owning a PA and van, although it did ensure stable tenure as a bass player. These days I'm happy to pay someone $300 out of our gig fee to provide PA and lights, and for them to lug it all. That reduces what was previously a 10 hour committment for a gig to just a 4-5 hour committment.
 

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Doing your own roadie work? You must know the roadies creed!
"If it is wet, drink it. If it is dry, smoke it. If it moves f#@k it and if it doesn't throw it in the truck."
 

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I play in 2 6 peice bands...one is blues with minimal PA plus we do festivals with no load in really...
the other is 6 peice classic rock with the full deal load in of
2 Jbl subs
2 JBL mains
4 moniters
mixer rack
poweramps (about 150lbs alone)
etc etc
I dont mind it still as long as everyone helps some...I like owning the pa it insures quality.

But man do I appreciate those festivals, house gigs, and sideman jobs when I just bring my basses and my Markbass/bergie rig...

reminds me im gigging tomorrow and all I need as my basses...whee.
 
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