five7
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Yes, really! And no I don't wear my bass all up high like a guitard.
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Yes, really! And no I don't wear my bass all up high like a guitard.
keko
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Really?
Well, than I must consider about this for my Sterling 5 HS in the future, 'cause I do have slight problem with neck diving!
But, now first I have to try my incoming reflex 5 HH when arrive, ...I hope it will be no neck diving on it, it have smaller head stock and original light weight tuners, so...
bassmonkeee
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I've never had any problem with neckdive on any of my Musicman basses. They all hang amazingly well. Of course, I'm using a 3 1/2" wide leather strap, too.
But, if weight is an issue for you, though, the ultralight tuners are one way to remove 1/2 lb. That can be the difference with feeling a four hour gig the next day...
But, if weight is an issue for you, though, the ultralight tuners are one way to remove 1/2 lb. That can be the difference with feeling a four hour gig the next day...
keko
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Sorry USA guys, but can anyone convert this weight into the ISO measures, grams, or something, please and apologize!
adouglas
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Sorry USA guys, but can anyone convert this weight into the ISO measures, grams, or something, please and apologize!
lb. is the abbreviation for pound. 1 kilogram = 2.2 lbs.
Half a pound is 226 grams
(I almost got that backwards… insufficient coffee)
keko
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guenter
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Sorry USA guys, but can anyone convert this weight into the ISO measures, grams, or something, please and apologize!
Simply enter "0.5 lbs to kg" in your browsers (firefox?) search bar...
davidjbass
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I don't have an issue with neck dive with my Classic 5 at all. But I would not mind taking a half pound off the weight of the bass.
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Calaveras
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Sorry USA guys, but can anyone convert this weight into the ISO measures, grams, or something, please and apologize!
sorry, The US tried to go metric back in the 70's but it got caught up in politics. So we are nonstandard thanks to some typical election year charade.
But hey get out and vote tomorrow guys! You cant complain if you didnt vote!
keko
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Tnx. guys,
I've found free converter software over the internet and it shows:
0.5 pound (lb) = 226.7962 gram (g)
...so adouglas was right!
Anyway, it's a pretty much weight loss, right?
I've found free converter software over the internet and it shows:
0.5 pound (lb) = 226.7962 gram (g)
...so adouglas was right!
Anyway, it's a pretty much weight loss, right?
adouglas
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At the time Saturday Night Live did a very funny skit about the proposed adoption of the metric "Decibet" ten-letter alphabet.
Transcript here:
SNL Transcripts: Raquel Welch: 04/24/76: The Decibet
EdFriedland
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.5lbs makes a big difference to me, but also consider that the weight is at the far end of the instrument, so it "feels" more significant.
I have considered trying this to save weight, but you are also messing with the resonance of the neck. If you like the way your bass sounds with the original tuners... there is no guarantee that it will sound the same without them.
I have considered trying this to save weight, but you are also messing with the resonance of the neck. If you like the way your bass sounds with the original tuners... there is no guarantee that it will sound the same without them.
yourwhathurts69
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so, has anyone besides depalm tried switching their stock tuners to ultralites?
keko
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Hmmm, ...maybe You're right!
Some people "can't" hear the difference between maple and rosewood fretboards
, so..., but I find myself an advanced user, and it's very possible that I could hear the difference with light weight tuners! You know what guys?, ...maybe is better to leave the thing like it is using old school term: -don't touch anything while nothing is broken!
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strummer
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Yeah, I did, but 1) I couldn't make myself drill new holes in the head stock, and 2) the Bongo didn't feel lighter at all and 3) someone had a seriously neck diving abg so I gave them away.
Hmmm, ...maybe You're right!
Some people "can't" hear the difference between maple and rosewood fretboards
You know what guys?, ...maybe is better to leave the thing like it is using old school term: -don't touch anything while nothing is broken!
It doesn't make any sense.
Tuners used on most MM basses from day one till now are lighter and smaller than the old ones Fender used on Ps and Js.
If there were a problem in resonance or whatever then Leo Fender would never choose to use lighter tuners on Music Man basses.
Sadowsky, Nordstrand, Lakland and almost every great bass constructor is using lighter tuners on their basses now. And now EBMM is using lighter tuners on their basses too.
Some people say they can "hear" many things... I'm an advanced player too and I know that a well balanced instrument on my shoulder is something indispensable.
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strummer
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Sure it does. When you remove mass from the head you will alter the resonant characteristics of the bass, period. Now, the changes might be small, they might even be desireable, ut there will be a difference.
I think all Ed is saying is that your bass might not sound exactly the same with the lighter tuners, as is true of all the basses you for some reason feel the need to mention. Put heavy old fender tunders on a Sad and there will be a difference in sound.
Calaveras
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or you could replace the tuners with ultralites then make up for the loss of sustain by using one of those GT "fat finger" devices?
I'm in the "if it aint broke..." camp.
I'm in the "if it aint broke..." camp.
oli@bass
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This. And since it moves the resonance of the neck, a change of weight can also make dead spots disapper, move or appear. It's just a fact of physics.
With all due respect
I'm sure it's a fact of physics. In theory.
But I just spent some time this afternoon to put back the original tuners on my Sterling and, believe me, there was no difference at all in sound. No dead spots, no resonant notes, nothing that I could feel is directly related to the added mass on the headstock. I should have recorded soundclips…
The only thing that changed is that the bass is now not that well balanced.
In my opinion it's the same when some people claim they can hear a difference from top loaded to through body bridges.
I'm sure it's a fact of physics. In theory.
But I just spent some time this afternoon to put back the original tuners on my Sterling and, believe me, there was no difference at all in sound. No dead spots, no resonant notes, nothing that I could feel is directly related to the added mass on the headstock. I should have recorded soundclips…
The only thing that changed is that the bass is now not that well balanced.
In my opinion it's the same when some people claim they can hear a difference from top loaded to through body bridges.
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