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kevins

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I own both now and an 84 that has the pickups and preamp of a 79! I was wondering if anyone knew what went into the design of the classic, I actually think the classic doesn’t sound exactly like the 86 I got, I think it sounds weirdly enough as something in between the pre ernie ball Sabre and the ernie ball sabres. Neck pickup is more responsive on the classic and it has a deeper sound too.

Also was wondering why it was changed from
The pre-eb format? I’ve heard people say that the pre-eb sabres were prone to magnetic interference from the size of the magnets and so smaller magnets were chosen. Did Dudley invent the 16 pole pickup? That pickup actually starting to make its rounds a lot on the boutique and master luthier circuit, you’ll see these 10k basses with double 16 pole pieces. I don’t really see any precedent before the 80s of a 16 pole piece humbucker!

Anyways the classic Sabre is probably the nicest bass I own, really great job, maybe fourth times a charm lol.

Would love to hear the technical stuff on those pickup designs unless they’re top secret. Had a theory that the sabre pickup was a more scooped sound because it’s smaller size than the stingray pickup meaning it was slightly overwound given that it has the same sized magnets. Sabre output signal is also usually much stronger than the stingrays output signal!

Also I’ve seen some double 8 pole piece pickup sabres that have covers on them and levers, and I was wondering if ernie ball ever put out the double 8s?
 

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The 16 pole pickup , the covered poles and the lever was introduced still in the pre eb period. It is quite strange that your 1984 has still the 3 toggle switches and the esposed polepieces (sure it's 84?).
As far as I know the preamp of the classic is the same of the late pre eb and 1984-1990 sabres, that is the same of a 2 band stingray. I think they tried to uniform the type of preamp for standardization purposes.
 

kevins

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The 84 was modded, and I couldn’t find 1984 parts but could find 1979 parts so I put 1979 parts in it!
 

kevins

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I ask cause I was looking at an old thread where BP was talking about who designed each version of it. Iirc it was Leo and Tom on the first one, Dudley and Mark and BP on the second and Scott and Dudley on the classic. Could be the only difference is the pickup switch(more intuitive design) but I think the classic sounds better, I think the pickup or pickup casing is slightly bigger, a single mm? Maybe it’s wound more for more output? Not sure but it sounds bigger and richer
 
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