Any new models gonna come out soon?

[Tone?]

So after writing the thread about other Axis ideas, i was thinking how it has been awhile since some new EBMM guitar models have come out. Hasnt it???

I love my Axis so much that i would love to see some new fresh ideas/designs to come out.

you know i have played some real high end guitars out there, but they lack the character of EBMM's and thats why i dont buy em. I would just like to see some new models come out.

anything out there???

 

[puppyonacid]

It's an interesting question and it was thrown up a while ago. They do have the Baritone JP BFR's in the works. That's a new venture for MM. As is the recentley introduced 6 string Bongo's.

Alot of new MM guitars have been sig models. And perhaps the next big endorsee that steps on board might have some input on a new one. I have wondered though What MM could do as far a new non sig guitar. But, I can't see BP and the crew doing anything unless they feel it's marketable and innovative. I mean, let's face it, when did Fender or Gibson introduce anything of any serious note as far as a brand new guitar? I'd hate to see MM going down that road. Rehashing or releasing guitars just for the sake of it. Fender and Gibson have introduced some seriously odd and sub standard instruments over the years. In my opinion anyway. I can't understand why. Perhaps it's because they want to be percieved as pushing the envelope. I can understand that. But when did MM ever introduce a "bad" guitar?

I think they have it all pretty much covered as far as what they do. And over the past 12 months they have pushed into some new territory with the afore mentioned instruments. I know there are things we'd all love to see. I for one would love to see a 7 string silo. They already make the best 7 stringer on the market, so why not? But MM have a good balance in what they do sell.

 

[TNT]

The models that are out are suffice for every conceivable rock guitar style playing, and the absolute best in EVERY category and feature!!

My question is, why bother"??

It's like asking a UFC fighter who's record is 32-0-0 to come up with some new moves??

Again, just my personal opinion.

 

[Big Poppa]

We have come up with so many things its crazy and have a bunch at Namm COming out

 

[Larry]

I consider the BFR JP and LUKE new models... those came out this year too...

 

[Larry]

Can't wait for the NAMM torture thread either

 

[colinboy]

what date this month is the winter NAMM festival guys?

 

[Larry]

January 17-20

 

[Astrofreq]

We have come up with so many things its crazy and have a bunch at Namm COming out

I can't wait to see what's coming out. I'll bet there are some guitars they've been hiding from us.

 

[Multiversal]

It's an interesting question and it was thrown up a while ago. They do have the Baritone JP BFR's in the works. That's a new venture for MM. As is the recentley introduced 6 string Bongo's.

Alot of new MM guitars have been sig models. And perhaps the next big endorsee that steps on board might have some input on a new one. I have wondered though What MM could do as far a new non sig guitar. But, I can't see BP and the crew doing anything unless they feel it's marketable and innovative. I mean, let's face it, when did Fender or Gibson introduce anything of any serious note as far as a brand new guitar? I'd hate to see MM going down that road. Rehashing or releasing guitars just for the sake of it. Fender and Gibson have introduced some seriously odd and sub standard instruments over the years. In my opinion anyway. I can't understand why. Perhaps it's because they want to be percieved as pushing the envelope. I can understand that. But when did MM ever introduce a "bad" guitar?

I think they have it all pretty much covered as far as what they do. And over the past 12 months they have pushed into some new territory with the afore mentioned instruments. I know there are things we'd all love to see. I for one would love to see a 7 string silo. They already make the best 7 stringer on the market, so why not? But MM have a good balance in what they do sell.

Speaking of Gibson.. do you guys remember the Gibson Gothic line of guitars?

Yeah, nobody else does either.

+1 on the BFRs being new. They're selling like hotcakes, too... BP even mentioned that they were doing well.

 

[Larry]

Glad to see the BFRs doing good... Gives me hope for the BFR Silo Special... But what will I order in 2008... new EBMM mystery model... BFR AL? 2008LE... decisions decisions

 

[Pittman75]

January 17-20

My birthday is the 20th, some namm gear would be a great gift

 

[metal_terrorist]

I would love to see a 7 string Silo. Well, I actually like seeing ANY Silo's but a 7 string would be a bonus.

 

[Tone?]

We have come up with so many things its crazy and have a bunch at Namm COming out

There ya go! Cool i cant wait to see what is up!!!

The models that are out are suffice for every conceivable rock guitar style playing, and the absolute best in EVERY category and feature!!

My question is, why bother"??

Sorry man no offense but it is called MARKETING. They make great guitars, but it still is a 'company' nonetheless.
So it needs new fresh 'ideas' to keep up the selling.

I also think that your 'basic' guitar design can only go so far, and Fender and Gibson come out with alot of the 'same ole crap in a new box'.
But it doesnt mean that you have to do what they do.
There are a few good guitar companies out there that build quality instruments, which every now and again have to produce new cattle for the herd.
Gotta keep your 'cash cows' but gotta also keep introducing the new stars which will be the next cash cows.

Every product has a life span no matter how good it is. Consumers are just weird like that. We want change no matter how good what we have is.

cheers!

Now we just gotta wait till NAMM!!!! Too Cool!!!

Hey BP! any little tid bits of info you want to give us on anything? just to have us in more anticipation??

 

[Jimmyb]

With respect, I have to disagree Tone.

If the company has a 6 month lead time for the products and are working at maximum available resource to fulfil those orders, they are hardly 'stale'.

When you also consider that there are approximately 100, 000 variations of instruments that are produced (when you take into account all of the options that are available) Then even an additional colour option dramatically increases the options available.

We've already been lucky enough to see prototypes of the Sterling 5, the Bongo 6 and the Petrucci Baritones, so that's 3 new instruments in the space of a year, plus there's the continuing beta testing and preparation of the Wah pedal and the straplocks.

They're a pretty busy bunch of guys!!

 

[Tone?]

I never said anyone was sitting on his or her ass.


It was just a fair question of if there are any new products coming out.

Creative inquiry its called.

Its cool to disagree. no prob man, we cant agree on everything, would make for a boring world with no progress.

cheers!

 

[puppyonacid]

Every product has a life span no matter how good it is. Consumers are just weird like that. We want change no matter how good what we have is.

Not too sure about that. Sure maybe there are some musicians who like change and new stuff. But it seems the majority want things how they used to be. Perhaps that's why the relic market is so hot. And, let's face it, love 'em or loathe 'em, the fact is Fender have barely radically changed anything about the Strat. Guitar players seem to like things the way they are. Change, even if it's good and for the best, can be hard for guitar players to accept.

There must have been countless instruments over the years that were really good that have fallen by the wayside because they jsut weren't accepeted.

 

[Tone?]

well actually relics are new/old products.

i get what you are saying, but even high end companies like Surh, Tom Anderson, don grosh etc....they make changes from time to time to keep things fresh. Even if they are subtle changes gotta make em.
And i place EBMM in the same category as them. They arent gonna make changes as Fender and Gibson are, which use marketing as a prime means for selling. But changes need to be made.
Someone could come out with the 'perfect' instrument, but after 20 years of selling it, you gotta change the package, colors, etc... something or else it will die off.
It doesnt mean you dont make a good enough product. It is just a consumer habit/trend.

If you look at the Strat and see how many models have came out on the same design, it is mind boggling. And especially after the number crunchers took over! Relics in my opinion came out cause the vintage market was in high demand and too pricey so some people wanted it to be accessible to more of a market. A clever thing to do.
If you take a handful of guitarists over a course of 20 years, how many changes have they made to their instruments? quite a few. and the more time goes by with endorsements and new marketing techniques the more often they change now. It a business.
I dont think that guitarists nowadays endorse for more than 3 years. It may be rare to keep someone on the bandwagon that long. If i owned one of these companies i wouldnt forecast to keep people that long. I would try but i wouldnt bet on it.
With globalisation etc.. markets move real fast today, so its kinda like the necessary evil or something. Look at product life spans 10 years ago and look at them today. They are much shorter today.

IMHO.

cool conversation eh?

 

[Jimmyb]

I dont think that guitarists nowadays endorse for more than 3 years. It may be rare to keep someone on the bandwagon that long. If i owned one of these companies i wouldnt forecast to keep people that long. I would try but i wouldnt bet on it.

cool conversation eh?

Just a quick one for this, look at EBMM's artists. Steve Morse, Albert Lee, Luke, they've all been with EBMM for over 10 years. Ok, I can't actually remember just how long, but I think Steve Morse is close to 20 years? I think the Albert is about 15 years and I think Luke's about 10 years or so. John Petrucci is the newcomer to the gang!! (albeit very welcome)

You are right about the artists changing their guitars, look at the Y2D, The petrucci BFR, the Luke BFR and the eagerly awaited AL BFR. So EBMM are continually responding to and exceeding the artists wishes.

I do think it's a good conversation and I'm not harbouring any ill-feelings either

 

[Tone?]

I do think it's a good conversation and I'm not harbouring any ill-feelings either

no way man, just brain storming here. might come up with good ideas.


yeah EBMM's artists for the most part have been on board for awhile. Now i dont know any of the numbers, but wouldnt you say that they should get newer guys? not as in age but some more artists.
I mean there are positives i can see and negatives about having 70% or more of your endorsers for a long time.
It does show that they really dig the product and stand by their endorsements no matter what. So that shows me that it is more than a money thing, which most of the time is 90% money i assume.
On the other hand we often associate tone and playability to stuff that is totally different to if something sounds good.
Then you also have to see what kind of product you are selling and what is your 'vision'.
Like, it is obvious EBMM is NOT like fender/gibson out to cover ALL players and markets. They seem more focused on high end custom instruments.
Then again Suhr and Tom anderson dont really endorse all that many people either. But they do have artists which own at least one of their guitars that they have in their arsenal and most likely play instead of their endorsements.

i dont know, maybe im just talking out my aSS! lol!

im tired and sick and need rest and fluids.......ugh